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Sounds like u got it all figured out. You refuted nothing I posted. Nothing You reframed every concept I brought forward. SMH

The bible ends with the cry of the remnant bride for the groom to come. You would be wise to drop doctrine and watch for Jesus.

Postrib inevitable low road Go personal, and belittle. Throw in some name calling. I DO understand you can not go toe to toe with verses. I totally understand your frustration, since you can not POSSIBLY make rev 14 go away or the pretrib rapture verses.

bravo Ignore the words of Jesus, and go for a postribber talking point. Great plan!

....he says, thinking Noah and Lot are post judgement examples. Then thinking the dead in Christ are resurrected after the living of rev 14. Your ENTIRE theory rests on one issue. That there is no coming of Jesus in rev 14, (which is neither the rapture or the second coming on horses) And ,That...

Jesus FRAMES it before the trib. Take it up with him. It is HIS words. Btw You have no postrib rapture verses.

paul calls it the gentile church in rom 11 I wish you would read rom 11 without the replacement theology

YES IN CHRIST we are all one. The ENTIRE POINT of the gt is God turning his attention to the Jews to get them to repent. The church is INDIRECTLY part of the gt. The Jews are his people.( the rebellious wife) I know you are against the examples of the OT. But more than once we see a king go...

Quote by Ghanda "It does no good at all to tell people, whether Jew or Greek, that today they have some special promise from God, due to who they were born with. It hinders the whosoever gospel of Jesus Christ, and could prevent some being saved and judged righteous at His appearing" The only...

The declaration over the wedding was " you saved the best for last" The Jews, as pointed out in the Declaration of the wedding are the last to come in which is Affirmed in Revelation 14 as they are after the "dead in Christ are raised" .They cannot possibly be before the dead in Christ are...

Completely false. You have not accurately addressed the VERSES i posted. You gloss over it then act like you made some point.

Rev 14 is a lie? It blows apart completely, your foundation stone and banner pillar of everything you use as end times prism. That being "he only comes one time" Not to mention, you have the dead in Christ raised AFTER the living are raptured in rev 14. 100% false. Game Set Match

Bingo ...and are taken directly to the wedding chamber, and the door is shut (heaven,pretrib)

My job is to strictly post what is written IN CONTEXT with the rest of the bible. You have skipped context in every dynamic of your defense of doctrine. The verses I am bringing REFUTE DECISIVELY your doctrine. That is my job. Report the word. You can harmonize it. Or you can go AGAINST the word...

Rev 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that...

Whew, what nonsense Again, omitting verses. What nonsense Rev 14 has a GATHERING DURING THE GT. (2 actually) That makes ,According to your doctrine of omissions, 1 thes 4 a lie, because you have the dead in Christ resurrected AFTER the living are gathered DURING THE GT in rev 14. Just plain...

Your opinion in no way voids Gods word Just unbelievable the omissions by you to prop up your extra biblical doctrine. You do not know wat you are talking about.

Nope. You need more verses. Omission is lowest ground, because you are diminishing Gods word to fit your doctrine. SMH

Rom 11 (which you were shown, but shoved it aside to call the bible "my opinion") 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary...

a.) Matt ch24 Jesus declares 2 comings in ch 24...so,nothing there b.) 1 Thess 4:13-18 The dead IN CHRIST rise first, BEFORE the living. You have them resurrrected AFTER the living gathered in rev 14. So,again,nothing there c.) Ephesians 2:11-22 Can not find a rapture verse in any of those...