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Hi Stone, Ok, then we aren't in possession of eternal life at this time, correct? The impression I got from the op is that we are now in possession of eternal life. It seems 1 Corinthians 15 keeps getting quoted which speaks of the future. If that's the case it would seem that eternal life is...

Hi Stone, I understand that. However, if one is in posession of eternal life now, shouldn't one live eternally and not die?

Hi Richard, I understand what you've said, however, in the op you said the children of God HAVE eteranal life. You used all caps for the word have. Maybe I misunderstood your meaning, I got the impression that you were implying that the children were currently in posession of eternal life. If...

Agreed, however, I know of Christians who have died. If they were in possession of eternal life why did they die?

Why do the children of God still die if they have eternal life?

What is the basis for you statement and belief that your name was written in the book before the foundation of the world? Are you referring to Revelation 17:8?

Hi again John, In Romans 9 Paul is speaking about the Jews. If you read the entire book of Romans you find that in chapter 2:17 Paul says, 'thou art called a Jew'. He continues this line of discussion all the way through 11:13 where he says, 'for I turn to you gentiles. From 2:17-11:13 Paul is...

Well said, however, we don't need to follow the world we are called to follow Christ. We can live by those principles that Christ gave, they are "NOT" unsustainable.

How exatly does being obedient equate to insulting Christ?

That construction isn't necessary. If one doesn't believe they wouldn't be baptized, If the first condition isn't met, (believes) the second condition (baptism) is irrelevant. Unlike many I don't asume my understadng is always what the writer meant.. There is a difference between "Is" and "as".

Can you be more specific?

I don't know about Jesus being the Spirit, but I agree with you on the rest.

What about them? They are in God's hands, it is His decision to make, not yours or mine. However, you and I do have the opportunity to be baptized as do the "VAST" majority of those who believe. You asked about those where Christianity is illegal. It was illegal for much of the first 300 years...

Jesus said, he who believes and is baptized shall be saved. Paul connects water baptism with participation in the resurrection in Romans 6, Peter said, the like figure where unto baptism does save us. The historical evidence follows this, the early church those taught by Jesus and the apostles...

What makes you think God destines people? Just because God may know the choice a person will make doesn't mean He causes those choices.

I'm sorry your not open to accepting a different understanding than your own. However, if I show you from the Scriptures would that be of interest. If you look at John 1:12, John said, as many as received Him He gave the authority to become children of God. So, believing didn't automatically...

I agree to a point. Firstly, when you say baptized in the Holy Spirit, what do you mean? The apostles "received" the Spirit when Jesus breathed on them, however, they were "baptized" with the Spirit at Pentecost. So, I would need to know which event you are referring to. I agree that the...

I think there are a few issues with you idea. One, why did Paul water baptize Gentiles? Why did Peter water baptize Gentiles? Actually the historical record is against this idea also. The early church understood water baptism as the point where sins were forgiven and one was born again.

Yeah, he's not telling them to forget about the doctrines, as in they are not valid anymore. He's telling them to move on, stop dwelling on the milk and move on to meat.