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Exactly! It's so simple. If we know who the two main characters are, Jesus and God, the story makes way more sense. In fact, making the two into one all but makes the Bible unintelligible.

Then you should be able to find a clear verse that says I'm going to burn in hell for believing that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him from the dead (Rom 10:9-10)?

If Corinthians said, "...yet for us there is one God, who is the Father, from Whom are all things and for Whom we exist, and who is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom are all things and through Whom we exist." you might have something. But those words "who is" are not there. Even if "who is"...

Acts 2:36, Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. This verse says God made Jesus both Lord and Christ, i.e., our savior. It says nothing about Jesus being God. In fact, if Jesus is God, it would be...

Jesus said we can do the works he did and even greater works. We also will be raised from the dead.

Very well said. Reminds me of: Heb 11:6, But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. We have Christ in us (Col 1:27) and God was in Christ (2 Cor 5:19).

I was just wondering if you are like many, if not most, who think that belief in Jesus being God is a requirement for salvation. I guess I could have just asked you that straightaway instead of beating around the bush. :)

I totally agree with your first paragraph. I will add that the reason we don't see the promise of doing greater works is a simple matter of unbelief. Matt 13:58, And he (Jesus) did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. Even Jesus was stymied by the lack of belief in that...

Do you think I'm your brother? Phil 2:1-4, 1 If [there be] therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, [being] of one accord, of one mind. 3 [Let]...

No. Bye.

That fact that Jesus supposedly talked about his existence is not preexistence? How do you define preexistence?

The rules say nobody can attack someone else's character. You say I'm dishonorable and lack integrity. They also say we must stay on topic. I don't recall anything in the OP about honor and integrity.

I was mistaken. But to my defense I might say that usually when someone brings up John 17:4-5 they are saying Jesus was alive before the world was, hence preexistence. Do I understand you to take them some other way?

The amazing thing about forums is that so many know so much about somebody they've never met. Or they think they do at any rate.

Am I not welcome? Sounds like that's what you're saying.

What I was trying to say was that, given Ephesians 1:4, maybe things that are said to preexist mean something other than something exists before it actually exists. God chose you before the foundation of the world.

Then it's possible that I can murder someone and suffer no consequences in this life of the one to come? I don't think so. The verses that say all things are possible have a context. They don't mean any nonsensical idea can be true. I assume you are talking about preexistence. Eph 1:4...

Where does the scriptures say 3 is 1? You discount non-trinitarians because they don't thing 3 is 1. The only way 3 could be 1 is by mysticism. It sure isn't natural. That's what I meant.

Well, Jesus started out in life just like the rest of us. He knew nothing about obedience or disobedience. He came into this world knowing nothing and learned about life as he was taught. Part of that teaching was to be obedient to God. That's my best answer. I would be interested to get your...

Yes, we must dabble in mysticism for the trinity. From post #32: "Seems like an easy question. Not sure why so many couldn't answer it. Jesus was always the son of God. You do understand that a son can in no way be his own father?" Maybe people answer your questions but you don't read them?