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Seems like an easy question. Not sure why so many couldn't answer it. Jesus was always the son of God. You do understand that a son can in no way be his own father?

And you've looked at all my posts? I don't think so.

Either you are incredibly out of touch and don't see the correlation between Jesus being God and the trinity doctrine, or you are a nitpicker extraordinaire. Since you seem to be fairly intelligent, I'm thinking the latter. :) Whose to say? Well said there! That's what we are to guard against.

If in one case "form" means an outward appearance and in another case it mean identity, it is absolutely diametrically opposed. The same word is given opposite meanings in order to satisfy preconceived ideas. That's what I meant. That and a bunch of other things. Yes, but more to the point...

So in Timothy "form" indeed means an outward appearance but in Philippians it's an identity? I guess that's because it works with the trinity that way, that we must interpret everything so as to fit with the trinity. The trinity comes first and then the story. Really?

Precisely! How did I not say exactly that? But let's forget what I said and just read the verses. Phil 2:1-4, 1 If [there be] therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded...

What I like is not part of the equation Any thoughts on something else I posted? Mark 16:11-12, 11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. 12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country...

Technically you are correct. But maybe not so different? Philippians uses the word: G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n. 1. form. Timothy uses the word: G3446 μόρφωσις morphosis (mor'-fō-sis) n. 1. formation. 2. (by implication) , appearance (semblance or (concretely) formula). [from G3445]...

2 Tim 3:5, Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Clearly the folks Paul is talking about are not actually godly at all. Note verses 1-4 make that clear. However it is equally clear they have a "form" of godliness. Apparently someone being in the "form"...

As in being "one" ala John 10:30? What a novel concept! :) BTW, I do think you have a healthy sense of humor. A good thing to have in my book.

But to us there is but one President, Joe Biden, who is the leader and one Vice President, Kamala Harris, who is second in command. Know anybody who thinks Joe and Kamala are one "essence?"

He's a good word twister to be sure.

So God has gone from a personal entity to a thing, an essence? :( Funny that you should bring up twisting other people's words. But, judging from your posts, I guess you're a pro at it so you would notice. Not required. I just wonder about things like most people. You?

You and I are Christians. Notice I used the word and in bold. That proves we are actually the same person? A pat on the back for cutting and pasting some diagram? I wouldn't break out the champagne too soon if I were you. :) I wonder why the Bible would say it contains all things that pertain...

John 17 is Jesus praying to God. So you really mean to say that one person talking to another person means they are one and the same entity? That one person asking another person to send something means all three are the same entity?

Not at all. They get it from the scriptures. No need for man made councils as are required by the trinity.

You do know there was a specific context about loosing my marbles?

That makes two of us. Probably my fault, but not sure how. In any case, the only thing missing are some of my marbles! :)

That makes sense. I'd hate to think he is actually a troll.

There are two distinctly different subjects in 1 Cor 8:6, God and Lord. "Father" describes God and "Lord" describes Jesus. All things come "from" (Greek ek) God, the Father and "through" (Greek dia) Jesus the Lord. Something can't originate form one source and also pass through that same...