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Actually, I do agree with what you say here, SI. But, as you know ~ or should ~ the heart is deceitful above all things (Jeremiah 17:9). So many are so hung up on "free will." No one disagrees that our wills are our own and thus free. But the matter, as far as God's salvation goes, is the...

Right, and again, these people have heard the truth explained and thus have also learned of God's Word, and experienced the benefits therein and of the presence of the Spirit and His work around them. Certainly, one can fall away from that, and of his/her own free will and accord. God's...

God is the giver of faith, which we know is His assurance of things hoped for, the conviction by the Holy Spirit of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1). By grace we have been saved through faith, and this is not our own doing, it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast...

Man, I sure hope so. Like, buried as deep underground as you can possibly get it; because that's where it should go... :) Well I agree, but something tells me you're not going to stop... :) Just pokin' a little fun at you, Eternally Grateful. :) Grace and peace to you.

Yeah, I'm gonna strongly disagree with you on this, too, Covenantee. Eternally Grateful asked me the same question back on page 19, and you can read my answer in post 374 if you haven't already. In a nutshell, it is impossible to credibly refute Paul in Romans 8:35-39 or Ephesians 1:5-14 or...

Yes. In the lesser, immediate sense, yes, but in the greater, eternal sense, well, yes, also. That's the relationship between the New Testament and the Old, in a nutshell. The New Testament is a continuation of the story begun in Genesis 1 (so the one page you can rip out of your Bible is...

LOL! Right back atcha... :) Yeah, me, too.. :) Isaac, Jacob, and Jacob's twelve sons were not yet born, so no, the covenant itself was just with Abram. He was the federal representative of all of his progeny, both in the immediate sense and the ultimate sense, which, in both cases is all...

"National Israel" was not in existence yet, Eternally Grateful. He made a covenant with Abram, and promised to make him a nation. "National Israel" was not a party to the covenant. Wow. Well, that's yours and Coventantee's argument. But you know... :) God did promise Abram a son (lesser)...

Paul did say (yet again) that not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and he even used Jacob and Esau - twin brothers of Israel himself, to demonstrate this and God's purpose of election. So, irrefutably, not all of Paul's fellow countrymen are among God's people; not all his...

Agreed. Well, you won't. Or any the others that it is very much like in a general way. Or Who they all come into full focus in, I guess. Too bad, but okay. All covenants, regardless whether they are eternal or not, are two sided, in that there are obligations agreed to and consequences for...

Very well, but in a covenant, both sides have requirements placed upon them. Abraham's was understood ~ obedience ~ as is the case in all the lesser covenants, from Adam's, through Moses's, and on through David's. Grace and peace to you. Right, in order, 1.) the covenant of life, with Adam...

Do you think Abraham (actually then only Abram) had no responsibility, Eternally Grateful? As I said, the call on the party opposite God in any of the divine covenants was obedience, to be perfect as He is perfect, to be holy as He is holy. Well, two things to this: 1.) A covenant, by...

And they did. And God promised that He would bear the consequences for failure on either His or Abraham's part. The human part in any and every divine covenant is obedience. That's what Abraham agreed to. Well, right, between two parties. A covenant, EG, by definition, is not unilateral...

Well, earthly physical Israel and God's eternal Israel are two different groups of folks... not that they are mutually exclusive, as God's eternal Israel will contain a number of those who were part of earthly, physical Israel. This Venn diagram should suffice: The inner circle is not to...

Well, previous to that, to be fair, you did say to Spiritual Israelite, "...if you were a true covenant person who understand them, you would understand this..." So what you say here seems a bit hypocritical. Well, no, actually; I purposefully bypassed your "point," and communicated the true...

Ahhhh, yes, it was. I agree with the "I will" part... But yes, God did put Abraham in a deep sleep, and what He then did was, in walking alone between the animal halves, promised to fulfill His end of the covenant as well as Abraham's, and to bear the consequences ~ to be like the animals and...

Very well. Absolutely not. What is "replaced," Eternally Grateful? Nothing. Absolutely nothing is replaced. I agreed, that in and of itself, it did not and does not. But it is one of the outward results of God's deliverance. Well, no, I agree, that's not true. I'm not sure how you even...

Continued from above: By showing it's short-sightedness? :) That would be disproving... :) You either missed my question here, or are avoiding it. What does it mean, Eternally Grateful, for something to be grafted in to something else? Ah, well, I agree, but again ~ yet again ~ we go back...

Certainly. Yes, I well understand. :) I well understand what you... understand... think... you have shown. :) No, but I well understand that you think you do... :) But you don't see the greater fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant. Or the Adamic, or the Noahic, or the Mosaic, or the...

No offense intended, EG, but this is ridiculous, a totally false accusation. The disagreement is not at all whether or not God will keep His promises, or even that He will keep His promises to Israel. Really, as it pertains to the dispensational view of things and who made up Israel before the...