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  1. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Yep, except there's a difference we may have on the definition of "saved" which I don't want to get in to. Too good to know by our good deeds bc the deeds can't close the gap between He and us created by our sin (Is 59:1). Yep, He's revealed Himself more and more over time. John 9:31 We know...
  2. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    I gotta agree with Scripture--Jesus says those who do good will resurrect to life, same thing written everywhere else in Scripture. It's a question as to how to hold to both doctrines not just one. If I dismiss one for "convenience", how am I not making God a liar?
  3. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    BRB just got out of dialysis
  4. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    No, the whole point is the Jewish believers should stop trusting and boasting in their Jewishness, circumcision, and knowledge of good and evil (knowledge of Torah), and, as a result, looking down on their believing Gentile brothers. He continues holding them up against the Jewish believers...
  5. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Well, good thing I'm not a KJV-onlyist!
  6. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    He describes what will occur on the Day of Judgment "their thoughts accusing or else excusing them on the Day when according to my Gospel God judges the secrets of men's hearts by Christ Jesus." It is not a descriptor of their manner--"These Gentiles are hypocrites!" He literally just...
  7. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Yeah, I know that part of the Bible exists, but I also acknowledge other parts. That is why I talk about the difficulty in reconciling these ideas.
  8. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    You're trying to say "Look what these Gentiles do", but it isn't about what they do, it's about what will occur at the Judgment.
  9. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Yeah, it's clear their thoughts will accuse them. And somehow this determines eternal life.
  10. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Ro 2 says the upcoming judgment will decide eternal life. Jesus says the same in Jn 5. Yeah we've discussed it. We don't see eye to eye.
  11. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    The reason it says the action is being done to anther is because it is their own thoughts which are doing it to them. Testifying against or for them. No, not at all. Paul knows the Law is being written on their hearts because they're believers. The issue isn't whether or not they know good and...
  12. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    No, Paul knows the Law is being written on their hearts because they're believers. The issue isn't whether or not they know good and evil, or in what sense, he is discussing the FACT that they are doers of the Law who will be justified.
  13. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    It seems there're different judgments and justifications--one where the ungodly is justified by grace through faith alone, and one that is ongoing (the believer who goes against his faith, does what he doubts, is condemned Ro 14:5,23), and a final judgment of works.
  14. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    No, Paul isn't saying they accuse others but excuse themselves, he's saying their own thoughts accuse or excuse them bc they're a law unto themselves bc God is writing His Law in their minds and hearts.
  15. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    1. Jesus rejects evildoers when He returns (Mt 7), saying only those who do His Father's will will enter His Kingdom. 2. Correct, we do not immediately do all things God wants at all times, just as a baby doesn't run a marathon--Apostle John writes to people in different stages of spiritual...
  16. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    The Corinthians weren't fulfilling it, though they'd been called to be saints. Philippians 2 says "obey for it is God working in you"--so there are two realities which are true : God works in believers, and believers are to obey God's working.
  17. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    I'm not claiming believing Gentiles are flawless, he's telling the Jewish believers they really need to rethink looking down on their believing Gentile brothers, bc God will judge based on actual righteousness, and will not excuse them just bc they're Jewish if they're lawbreakers/unrighteous...
  18. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Right, the context shows the grammar is about their own thoughts accusing or else excusing them when they are judged just as their thoughts accuse or excuse them on a daily basis.