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  1. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    God writes His Law on the heart and believers are called to fulfill it. Those who walk in the Spirit don't commit idolatry, adultery, theft, etc, they don't displease God they please God.
  2. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    I am identifying them as believers because God's New Covenant promise is He writes His Law on the heart (Jer 31:31-34), and they have that, plus they're keeping God's Law, but lost men don't, and it says they're circumcised by the Spirit (Ro 2:29). Also, otherwise, you're arguing Paul thinks...
  3. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Please read what I wrote, then respond, because your question is answered there, and when you do not read what I write, and then ask questions I've already answered, you make me think I shouldn't waste my time.
  4. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Yup, never said we were under Law. YET it also says only doers of the Law will be justified--those who walk in God's righteousness by grace through faith.
  5. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    The Gentile believers mentioned there are "doers of the Law" bc God writes His Law on their hearts according to the text. I assume "the Law" they are "doers of" will accord with the list in Ro 13:8-10, as Paul also says they are keeping God's statutes (Ro 2:26,27) after mentioning the...
  6. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    I don't see where my responses are lacking. I addressed you head-on in every case.
  7. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Meaning that just because we walk by faith, and are "not under Law but under Grace", it doesn't lead to lawlessness, but "against the fruit of the Spirit there is no law". That's one way of looking at it. Paul says the believing Gentiles keep the Law because it is (in accordance with God's...
  8. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    The context is contrasting the happy estate of the Jew who believes and has Christ and is in the spirit not in the flesh (Ro 8:9) to the Jew without Christ in the flesh (Ro 8:5) and under the Law being mastered by sin (Ro 6:14, 7:7-24). When God puts His Spirit in us He causes us to walk in His...
  9. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    In my experience, and in Scripture, God is too good to deserve knowing Him. Therefore, it has to be a gift. However, it seems to me I am only blessed if I walk in faith, doing what I am convinced is correct. Otherwise my conscience is defiled, and God doesn't answer my prayers. However, in my...
  10. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    That's a debate for the Orthodox and RCs. My point was there has not been a singular unquestioned authoritative Church, we have to stick to God's Word as best we can. Cool. Cool. I kinda felt bad for you because you weren't even addressing my problem. Lol I hope not? I mean, Biblically...
  11. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Those who walk after the Spirit do have God fulfilling the Law in them (Ro 8:4), so that they do fulfill the whole Law (Ro 13:8-10), hence the Law is not overthrown (Ro 3:31), because we are "doers of the Law" who will be justified by doing good (Ro 2:6-16), as opposedt to being told, "Get away...
  12. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    They say you left--"he said, she said." Christ is indvisible : all members of Christ's body are part of the same Church, no matter what outward delineations. No, my point was men are created with reason, and ought to be reasoned with, not forced against their reason and conscience. Not just...
  13. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    1. The Orthodox would argue that they, not the Roman Catholics, did--and that the Roman Catholics are the first Protestants, having arrogated yourselves to a position you didnt earn or merit, having unilaterally decided to change the ancient tradition by adding the "Filioque". 2. I'm part of...
  14. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Yes, they got a lot right. Of course. They have the Bible. Your attitude is the typical Catholic attitude--ie, "I'm 100% correct, and cannot be corrected." That attitude is not conducive to actual analysis and discussion of ideas.
  15. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Don't use them if you won't use them correctly. Maybe your idea is just wrong. Again, your analogy doesn't work, then : God has commands, whereas your "father" has no commands. That is a flaw in your analogy, not in my conclusion of the message of the Scriptures. Not interested in a Catholic...
  16. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    The reason this analogy doesn't work is because, Biblically, if the son doesn't fulfill his father's will, he is disowned/disinherited/blotted out of the Book--he unbecomes a son, he doesn't remain a son. He is denied before the Father and His holy angels, as Jesus warns in the Synoptic Gospels...
  17. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    You said if the good thing is done, then the person gets the good thing.
  18. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Yep, you did : if the person doesn't do the "meritorious" thing, he doesn't get the blessing, thus it isn't a gift, the dynamic of which totally differs.
  19. GracePeace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    You're not going to convince me that a conditioned reward is the same as a gift--a gift is not given upon fulfillment of a condition, it's just given.