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You still have not provided the exposition for which I asked: 'Please show me where 'water' is mentioned for baptism in Romans 6?' You claim in #189 that I'm the one who 'shared your practical reasons for your view, but I am not seeing your Scriptural ones'. What are yo u doing when you state...

Amen! :rolleyes:

But you were the one at #188 who stated, 'If you love God you won't commit sin because He commands us not to sin.' So are you still loving God when you state, 'Of course I sin'?

So, shouldn't people be using their 'reasoning' when they come to God? How do you deal with Isaiah 1:18 (ESV): '“Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool'.

Please show me where 'water' is mentioned for baptism in Romans 6? By giving the examples from the Salvation Army in my country, I was demonstrating that people can be baptised into Christ without being water baptised. In fact, my parents were saved through the preaching of Billy Graham in 1959...

Do you sin?

David, I'm reminded of what happened with Paul, Silas and the Philippian jailer's conversion: There are some fundamental biblical principles taught in this passage: A person must be saved (v 29); Salvation comes through continuing to believe in the Lord Jesus - it's the Greek present tense of...

That's a red herring logical fallacy of a reply. 'Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin"' (John 8:31 ESV). Please tell me how that relates to how to love God and one another.

So, did Jesus teach us anything else in His Gospels besides loving God and loving one another?

How did it become a written word in the first century AD?

You don't seem to understand the place of oral tradition in the passing on of any kind of knowledge at the time of Christ and at other times when the printed sayings of Jesus were not available. Of course, this is the time before the printing press. I suggest a read of this article to explain...

What's stopping you from finding a house church in your region? As for meeting on Sunday afternoons, I don't think you can be that picky. As for studying Scripture with some snacks and meeting people, that sounds more like a 'life group' from a conventional kind of church. I go to one such group...

What kinds of churches are you attending? What kinds of inspiration would you prefer? Have you considered an every-member ministry house/cell church? Are you in a large enough region where you could seek such a church or don't you prefer being part of that kind of ministry? What kind of ideal...

I find that kind of comment to be poisonous (lacking edification) as you have not given us any kind of discussion about what drives you away from churches of your brand of Christianity to the point of hate. Are you prepared to share, but without vindictive sentiment?

We know that more than Torah (first 5 books of Moses) existed. Please refer to the whole edition of OT Scriptures. We most certainly know for the Christian that the only Scriptures recognised prior to Christ were the OT canon. After all, we are part of the Judeo-Christian religion. This does...

Here we have two groups of writings distinguished: “the sacred writings” of v. 15 and “all Scripture” of v. 16. “All Scripture” (v. 16) seems to indicate everything that the Holy Spirit gave to the church as canonical and authoritative, OT and NT. When Paul wrote these words, was he referring...

I am closer to accept the 'dry' baptism view (even though I have been immersed) because there are many born again Christians whom I have met who are definitely Christian but who have not been baptised. I think that is being disobedient, but it is the case. The Salvation Army is an overtly...

Stan, This thread began with this statement from The Nicene Creed, 'I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins'. Could we glean support for this statement from these verses? Rom 6:3-4 (ESV), '3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into...

At #159 you stated, 'but Jesus made it clear how to practice what is written'. And I said, so did James. The words of Jesus are no more important than the rest of the OT and NT because 'all Scripture is theopneustos - breathed out by God'.

And James didn't??