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  1. Wrangler

    Getting personal with each other.

    I hold this sentiment not able to withstand scrutiny. There is something schizophrenic about it. Personal statements should be taken personally. To say otherwise is to invite cognitive dissonance. As I wrote in my previous post, there is either truth in the personal statement or there is not...
  2. Wrangler

    Getting personal with each other.

    Hmmm. I believe the Lord is calling us to take what is personal as personal and this is extremely personal introspection. Either what is said is true or it is not. If what is said is true, it means that I have areas in my life that could be improved. Humility is the proper response. If what is...
  3. Wrangler

    Getting personal with each other.

    I think that is very different than the OP question. When does one expressing the truth about you become insulting? If what is said is false or malicious, it says more about the speaker than who they are insulting.
  4. Wrangler

    Getting personal with each other.

    I honestly don’t understand the implication this is bad in any way. We are commanded to live each other. That’s about as personal as it gets. In my study of male bonding, the foundation is common interest action. We have to earn getting personal over time. As we do the common interest action...
  5. Wrangler

    Trump ~ guilty

    When humanity is broken, the root cause problem emerges. Things are cyclic and we are now in a time of increasing corruption. The "public good" has a weakening center of gravity, spinning off streams of greedy self-indulgent and self-important enterprises. Yup. Sad that people like @TrumpMAGAT...
  6. Wrangler

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    I know. Point is, Trump is offering it for a price, which is not a crime. Biden has extorted billions, which is a crime.
  7. Wrangler

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    Right. He’s extorting Ukraine for $1B to fire the prosecutor whose investigating his sons corrupt dealings. Trump offers something we can voluntarily accept or reject. If it were a modern translation, I’d buy Trumps $60 Bible in a heart beat.
  8. Wrangler

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    Not what I said. Nice Strawman though.
  9. Wrangler

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    While in government, Trump lost money. While in government, Biden made millions. This tells the story. You shall not steal.
  10. Wrangler

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    Proverbs 6:16-19 16 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, 19 a false witness who breathes out...
  11. Wrangler

    Why supporting convicted felon Trump is unchristian

    Yes, that is correct. Saul Alinsky taught to accuse your opponents of what you, yourself are doing. Hillary actually broke the law but was not charged. Trump did not break the law but the law was broken "to get him." See the difference?
  12. Wrangler

    There never was a Palestine

    Agreed. It was always a geographical region - like Pacific north west - not a sovereign State. Palestine is the Roman term for the Hebrew region of Judea. The reason it was called Judea is because the Jews lived there.
  13. Wrangler

    Poll: Can A Christian Go A Day Without Sinning?

    Yes, because we are not always tempted.
  14. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Can't wait to see @Jack knock it out of the park.
  15. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I do. Most stories have a beginning, middle and end or past, current and future. Given the context of a child who is born at the time of the writing, you know the "shall be called" does not refer to centuries future but within the normal lifetime of a person at the time of the writing. Also, I...
  16. Wrangler

    Can You Truly Love Others If You Don't Love Yourself?

    Welcome to the forum @Lordsflower. It's axiomatic that you can only give to someone else what you have. I cannot give you a dollar or spoon or love if I do not have it to begin with. For most of us, love is natural. Several posters have said they love others more than themselves, even. For my...
  17. Wrangler

    Can You Truly Love Others If You Don't Love Yourself?

    I think that is it. In Sunday's sermon, the Pastor talked about the difficulty many Christians have is RECEIVING grace. Bingo! Ever hear the expression, "you can't get blood out of a stone?" It is not about the object of trust, the Holy Spirit. It is this man is so wounded, he never developed...
  18. Wrangler

    Can You Truly Love Others If You Don't Love Yourself?

    We are not separate from others? Never heard the story of the 99 sheep? One separated from the rest. Point is, he does not love himself. Turning your question on its head. So, how can he love others?
  19. Wrangler

    Can You Truly Love Others If You Don't Love Yourself?

    Absolute v Relative. To love others MORE is not the command. You are not less than others and yes, it is a personal issue. How do you struggle with it? Were you love as a child? Also, it implies you do love yourself ALSO (just relatively less). To understand it begins by realizing where he...