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EXACTLY! Who do you think he of vs 27 is if not the same prince of the people that shall come? Of course, making the prince that shall come Titus with the Roman Army changes who he of vs 27 is. I call it Preterit gymnastics! Trying to force the physical destruction into this passage of...

This is confusing because WPM said that he believes the prince of the people who shall come is Titus with the Roman Army. How could it be Titus with the Roman Army since the prince of the people that shall come is the same he that shall confirm the covenant with many of vs. 27.

The question focuses on who the people of the prince that shall come is? Yes, the prince that shall come is the same he who shall confirm the covenant in vs 27. The prince that shall come is NOT Titus coming with the Roman Army as WPM and others believe.

David, ask yourself what and why Daniel prayed an incredibly heartfelt prayer to God for himself and his people while still in captivity after the first temple and city and been destroyed by the Babylonians. Tell me if you agree that the re-built temple and sanctuary would also be made...

That's because you're reading this without understanding why God sent the Babylonians to destroy the city and sanctuary. Daniel's heartfelt prayer tells us WHY. Because the people of Messiah, the Prince who was the one to come had become an abomination before the LORD, making both city and...

No David, they are not the same. You're trying to make the prince who is to come the one who destroys the city and sanctuary. The verse does not say that. It says the people of the prince who was to come are the ones who destroy the city and sanctuary. IOW the Jewish people themselves, who...

Sadly, this is true! In the days of Daniel, the people of the prince who was to come were Jews. They became apostates before God, turning away from Him they made the city and sanctuary abominable and desolate. Daniel understood this as the reason God sent the Babylonians to destroy both city...

Why do you doubt that they are one and the same? Isn't the Messiah the Prince also the prince of the people who destroyed the city and sanctuary? Listening to Daniel's prayer for his people seems to make it clear the first physical destruction through the Babylonian Army was the result of...

It wasn't the prince (the Messiah) who was to come who destroyed the city and sanctuary, it was His people, apostate Jews. Through spiritual abominations the city and sanctuary had been made desolate. For this reason, the city and sanctuary were destroyed in the days of Daniel, and this will...

Yes, but not all have been translated from the Hebrew נָגִיד nâgîyd, naw-gheed'. In this verse prince of Persia comes from שַׂר sar, sar as do the princes of Israel Daniel prays for (9:6). שַׂר sar, sar - a head person of any rank or class נָגִיד nâgîyd - a commander (as occupying the...

It's in Daniel 9 the connection of the coming Messiah, the Prince and the crucifixion of Christ coming to fulfill all that was ordained of Him. I'll try to reply to more later when time permits. Blessings David for you and yours!

Christ does this by telling them and us to understand the AOD spoken of by Daniel the prophet. When they admired the city, temple and buildings they were going back to the Old Covenant. Which is why Christ told them all these things shall be destroyed. He wanted them to understand that with...

I think the main difference between how you and I understand this prophesy is that you see it as being mostly fulfilled near the very end of the age. But I view the prophesy as having begun to be fulfilled with the advent of Christ, and continuing to be fulfilled throughout all the ages until...

Okay, but Christ does not give them an answer for when the Old shall physically be destroyed. 70 AD is found nowhere in Scripture but must be read into the Bible by Preterits who cling to the Old after the New Covenant in Christ has come. Like the first century disciples of Christ, Preterits...

No, Christ doesn't talk about the cross, it is in reading from the prophet Daniel that the connection between AOD and the crucifixion is made manifest. No, I don't believe AOD is some thing! According to the prophet Daniel AOD is spiritual not physical. AOD was committed by the nation of...

Yes, they were looking back toward the Old Covenant physical realities, but the answer Christ gave them should have made them (and it did) look ahead. Because Christ links the AOD with the crucifixion of Christ which is that which was spoken by the prophet Daniel. Christ never gives the...

I've already told you what His answer to them was. They wanted to know what would happen and when to the physical city and temple, but the answer Christ gave them takes them and us back to the prophet Daniel that we would know the AOD is linked with the cross of Christ, and not the Old city and...

Yes, and the answer given can be known when we understand the abomination of desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel. Daniel links the AOD with the cross of Christ who is Messiah the Prince who was to come.

Yes, but we also recognize there are hosts, and legions of spiritual beings, both demonic as well as angels of God. Luke 2:13 (KJV) And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Host - stratiá: as encamped); camp-likeness, i.e. an army...

Having many legions does not mean there is more than ONE Roman Army. Would you also argue the USA has more than ONE Army because it has many divisions and companies and troops? Of course you wouldn't!