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There are probable different ways to define "Mature Christian." I can think of a few: Those "who have an ear to hear what the Spirit says." Those who receive interpretation from God. Those acting in their spiritual gift. Those who know to stay silent and have faith in God. ...I suppose there...

I quote God. You say I am quoting Him against His word. Brilliant. That's worth quoting just for the day you have to answer for it.

Yeah, obviously you can't understand. So, here, I'll spell it out for you: I was paying attention. Obviously you were not.

Amen! That is the truth. But look at all the jackals who have come out against it. :(

I am happy to put my word against those of a backstabber.

You are agreeing with someone who is misquoting and giving false testimony, literally making things up that I never said.

Those are not my words...those are terms you have come up with, and you didn't get them from the scriptures either, like "illumination." I have done nothing but quote the scriptures and show how we are not to abide in the trappings of the world by staying in the written word alone, when we are...

No, not if you are "having the Holy Spirit bring the scriptures alive." Hallelujah! But the process and plan of God includes an elementary time of law and written scripture, and then also a time of being lead into all truth by the Holy Spirit. We live in a time where both are actively being...

No...you left out the fact that you first badmouthed the "spiritual increases" as being "extrabiblical." Your flip-flopping contradictions are all here in writing.

No, as long as we who are alive in the spirit remain in the world, we have not fully attained all in God. Nonetheless, we have been given a specific direction to "follow" Christ, not in the ways of this world, but in the way of God, whom is spirit...and He expects to "find [us] so doing."

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth...contracting yourself with "extrabiblical spiritual concepts." You are guilty of your own accusations.

Of course it is...and no one is suggesting that stop. That is the Beginning. But when you are ready, He as many more things to say, which He has promised in spirit. That is the End, "a life-giving spirit."

And this word from Him you did not hear or perceive either. For if you had, you would have discerned it spiritually and known that He spoke of the fold of the children born of the spirit of God. In which case you would feed His lambs by what is written and His sheep by what is discerned by...

I answered your question when you asked it the first time. Did I not tell you that you would not hear it if I gave it again? Indeed, I did. The fact that you did not hear it...yes, that's all on you.

So...you doubt that God is capable of writing the scriptures in your heart and giving you the mind of Christ, that you should be One with Him and the Father, according to the scriptures? You need to think about what you are saying.

You are not listening, nor seeing. I have not said or advocated any such thing, only that which is written. But you have not heard or seen even what is written, so why should you hear or see it when it is given again? But you, you advocate for a half-truth gospel after the pattern of Satan...

There is nothing extrabiblical about God being spirit, the words of Jesus being spirit, even every jot and tittle, Jesus committing only His spirit to the Father, going to the Father, Jesus saying "follow Me", sending the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth, and Paul preaching to leave behind...

The world and all that is in it passes away, but His word does not pass away, but is forever in spirit. It is the Spirit that increases.

Meaning that if we are born again of the Spirit, we and our old ways must decrease, and He must increase.

Because we are still in "transition."