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Yes. I’ll support it from Church history. It will take me a few minutes to locate it. P.S. “Even among adherents of the Nicene orthodoxy an uncertainty still for a time prevailed respecting the doctrine of the third person of the Holy Trinity. Some held the Spirit to be an impersonal power or...

@Behold your teaching sounds similar to @ScottA’s teaching. Do you see differences between what he teaches and what you teach? If so, could you point them out for us?

I agree with this much of your position. That’s the departure point. Man’s destiny isn’t to become God, nor to become a part of God. The one God isn’t divisible into parts. I’m definitely tracking “Christ in you, the HOPE of glory.” I’m doing so as a Jewish monotheist, not as a trinitarian -...

Trinitarianism 101. Council of Chalcedon, 451 A.D. But Jesus isn’t a trinitarian. His God isn’t the Trinity. Jesus is a human person and his God is the Father alone - Yahweh.

Scripture is filled with examples of agency. It is a standard feature in Jewish culture. I’ll provide you with several example, if that’s what you need. Before I do I’d like to ask, have you ever done a Google search for the law of / principle of agency in scripture?

Adam is listed in his genealogy (Luke 3:23-38). Adam is an ancestor of Jesus. It should go without saying that Yahweh doesn’t have any ancestors. The point is that Jesus isn’t Yahweh. There is no God besides Yahweh. Yahweh is Jesus’ God and Father. Adam was sinless because he didn’t sin...

Yahweh doesn’t share his glory with anyone. Jesus shares his glory with all who belong to him.

I listened to your teaching, man. I don’t find it persuasive; it’s not consistent with the Messiah’s own Jewish monotheism. You’ve highlighted the part that doesn’t conform with your teaching, man. You call it error. That’s fine. I call what you teach error, because it presents us with a...

I see it as being part of the restoration of all things (Acts 3:21); humanity restored to what it was before sin entered the world. The new creation.

The law of agency is imprinted throughout scripture. That is the key to my position. The one who is sent is considered as if he is the sender.

“It rests on a misconception of the New Testament mode of speech and conception if we immediately infer that the declaration of Jesus, that he had glory with the Father before the world was created is simply and necessarily identical in meaning with the thought that he himself preexisted …...

When I said “a God” I was referring to “the one God”, his God and my God, the Father alone, Yahweh. I don’t agree with your premise that Yahweh shared his glory with Jesus. The glory which Jesus had with Yahweh was nothing more than glory in prospect.

Jesus is the ideal man. He is the beginning of the new creation.

The God of the ancients, from my perspective, can be no other than the God and Father of Jesus.

What I can agree with in your post is that it comes down to Jesus. He tells us precisely who his God and the God of his disciples is. The Trinity isn’t that God; the Father is. My position is that the God of Jesus is the one and only true God; that there is no God besides his God.

Your premise is that Jesus (not alone, of course) is the Lord God. I reject the premise. I’ve also pointed to the example of king David, a type of Jesus, being worshipped. There are many examples, hundreds, I suppose, of persons who weren’t the Lord God being worshipped in scripture.

Yes, as is the Messiah. His one God is my one God. I don’t acknowledge any other God besides this one. As you know, I’ve always credited the Roman Catholic Church as the source of the doctrine of the Trinity. In A.D. 380 the Church was still unsettled on the question of who or what the Holy...

That should be a mutual agreed upon point. The first thought that crossed my mind is that you’re short two. The passage you quoted concerns a human person, Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, supernaturally begotten by his God (there is no God besides his God) and conceived by his mother. The...

1. People from ancient cultures don’t think like 21st century Americans. 2. Isaiah 44:24 is a control passage for me. That constrains me to believing that Yahweh didn’t have a co-creator.

I’ve told you that I believe Jesus’ preexistence was ideal, in the mind of God. Jesus is a human person. He had, and still has, a God. What I was doing here was listening to you.