23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

[Timtofly]

It was the Roman army. (Luke 21:20)


Christ stopped the sacrifice at Calvary. In 70 AD He destroyed Jerusalem, using the Roman army as His instrument of judgment and desolation. (Luke 21:20)


That's not in Daniel 9, and does not describe the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.


The desolation wrought by the Roman army AoD began after the Christians fled, and continued through 70 AD.

The Holy of Holies was rendered obsolete at the Cross. Jerusalem was rendered desolate in 70 AD. God granted the intervening years of mercy to Israel before the 70 AD desolation. Why? Because He is a God of mercy.

So the AoD happened before Jesus was born when Herod allowed the Roman army to set up shop on the temple mount.

Or was it only a certain Roman army?

You do realize the Roman army had occupied Jerusalem for over a hundred years from 63BC, no?

 

[Timtofly]

Stop avoiding. How long of a break is there "between the 7th week and the 8th week"?

"And there went up some of the children of Israel, and of the priests, and the Levites, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, unto Jerusalem, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes the king. And he came to Jerusalem in the fifth month, which was in the seventh year of the king. For upon the first day of the first month began he to go up from Babylon, and on the first day of the fifth month came he to Jerusalem, according to the good hand of his God upon him."

Between the 1st and 7th year of Artexerxes.

"And I, even I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which are beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,"

You all seem to have all the dates. When are you going to use Scripture to prove your point? Where are these dates in Scripture? You are the one avoiding the facts.

 

[covenantee]

So the AoD happened before Jesus was born when Herod allowed the Roman army to set up shop on the temple mount.

So the desolation inflicted by the AoD Roman army, prophesied in Luke 21:20 and corroborated in Matthew 24:15, did not occur until 70 years after Jesus was born.

You do realize the Roman army had occupied Jerusalem for over a hundred years from 63BC, no?

You do realize that the Roman army did not destroy Jerusalem until 70 AD, yes?

 

[covenantee]

"NO" Roman armies in 70AD wasn't the AOD seen in Luke 21:20 as you continue to push the false reformed presterist eschatology

So Luke was a "false reformed presterist".

What is a "presterist"?

 

[WPM]

So Luke was a "false reformed presterist".

What is a "presterist"?

LOL.

 

[Keraz]

You do realize that the Roman army did not destroy Jerusalem until 70 AD, yes?

Actually: Rome did not destroy Jerusalem until 135 AD.
The whole idea that the Abomination of Desolation, Daniel 8:27, occurred in the first Century, is foolish and does not fit with history or the Bible.

Making jokes about someones mis-spelling, shows the desperation of your beliefs. It is preterism that is the joke.

 

[covenantee]

Actually: Rome did not destroy Jerusalem until 135 AD.
The whole idea that the Abomination of Desolation, Daniel 8:27, occurred in the first Century, is foolish and does not fit with history or the Bible.

Making jokes about someones mis-spelling, shows the desperation of your beliefs. It is preterism that is the joke.

So you too think that Luke was a "false reformed presterist"?

 

[Timtofly]

So the desolation inflicted by the AoD Roman army, prophesied in Luke 21:20 and corroborated in Matthew 24:15, did not occur until 70 years after Jesus was born.

You do realize that the Roman army did not destroy Jerusalem until 70 AD, yes?

So 100 years of AoD.

 

[covenantee]

So 100 years of AoD.

The desolation of Jerusalem began with the abominable Roman army's siege in 70 AD.

So AoD in 70 AD.

 

[Truth7t7]

So Luke was a "false reformed presterist".

What is a "presterist"?

Childish Response, As You Run From Truth

You believe and teach a majority of the Olivet discourse has taken place, namely Daniel's AOD and The Great Tribulation, your (Partial Preterist) in your eschatology, (Full Preterist) deny a future second coming

When I state "Reformed Preterist Eschatology" my statement is correct, as you believe and teach that Daniel's AOD and The Great Tribulation occurred in 70AD, it's that simple

Yes your teachings follow the Roman Catholic Jesuit Luis De Alcazar as seen below (Fact)

"Reformed Preterist Eschatology"

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition

preterism
prĕt′ə-rĭz″əm

noun​

1. A Christian doctrine holding that at least some of the apocalyptic prophecies in the Bible describe events that occurred within the first century after Jesus's death, rather than events that lie still in the future.
2. A Christian eschatological view that interprets Biblical prophecies as events which have already happened in the first century A.D.

Wikipedia: Preterism

The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is a prefix denoting that something is 'past' or 'beyond'.[1] Adherents of preterism are known as preterists. Preterism teaches that either all (full preterism) or a majority (partial preterism) of the Olivet Discourse had come to pass by AD 70.

Historically, preterists and non-preterists have generally agreed that the Jesuit Luis de Alcasar (1554–1613) wrote the first systematic preterist exposition of prophecy Vestigatio arcani sensus in Apocalypsi, published during the Counter-Reformation.[2] 

 

[WPM]

Childish

You believe and teach a majority of the Olivet discourse has taken place, namely Daniel's AOD and The Great Tribulation, your (Partial Preterist) in your eschatology, (Full Preterist) deny a future second coming

When I state "Reformed Preterist Eschatology" my statement is correct, as you believe and teach that Daniel's AOD and The Great Tribulation occurred in 70AD, it's that simple

Yes your teachings follow the Roman Catholic Jesuit Luis De Alcazar as seen below (Fact)

"Reformed Preterist Eschatology"

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition

preterism
prĕt′ə-rĭz″əm

noun​

1. A Christian doctrine holding that at least some of the apocalyptic prophecies in the Bible describe events that occurred within the first century after Jesus's death, rather than events that lie still in the future.
2. A Christian eschatological view that interprets Biblical prophecies as events which have already happened in the first century A.D.

Wikipedia: Preterism

The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is a prefix denoting that something is 'past' or 'beyond'.[1] Adherents of preterism are known as preterists. Preterism teaches that either all (full preterism) or a majority (partial preterism) of the Olivet Discourse had come to pass by AD 70.

Historically, preterists and non-preterists have generally agreed that the Jesuit Luis de Alcasar (1554–1613) wrote the first systematic preterist exposition of prophecy Vestigatio arcani sensus in Apocalypsi, published during the Counter-Reformation.[2] 

Does your mum know you are still up at this time of the night?

 

[Truth7t7]

Does your mum know you are still up at this time of the night?

Another Childish Response, From A Reformed Preterist Running From Biblical Truth

 

[WPM]

Another Childish Response, From A Reformed Preterist, Running From Biblical Truth

Stop your childishness and petty name-calling and someone here might take you serious. Until then people will treat you the way you act and talk.

 

[Truth7t7]

Sop your chilishness and petty name-calling and someone here might take you serious. Until then people will treat you the way you act and talk.

A Reformed Preterist Response, Running From Biblical Truth

 

[WPM]

A Reformed Preterist Response, Running From Biblical Truth

Time for your bed.

 

[Truth7t7]

Time for your bed.

A Reformed Preterist Response, Running From Biblical Truth, 70AD Fulfillment Is A "Luis De Alcasar" Jesuit Catholic Fairy Tale

 

[covenantee]

A Reformed Preterist Response, Running From Biblical Truth, 70AD Fulfillment Is A "Luis De Alcasar" Jesuit Catholic Fairy Tale

There's no avoiding it.

You believe that Luke was a "false reformed presterist".

 

[Truth7t7]

There's no avoiding it.

You believe that Luke was a "false reformed presterist".

Luke spoke nothing about 70AD as you falsely claim, it's only in your preterist imagination

 

[covenantee]

Luke spoke nothing about 70AD as you falsely claim, it's only in your preterist imagination

Jesus was the source of what Luke wrote.

You believe that Jesus is a "false reformed presterist".

 

[Truth7t7]

Jesus was the source of what Luke wrote.

You believe that Jesus is a "false reformed presterist".

"Yes", Read The Words Of Jesus Below Again And Again, That Prove Your Reformed Preterist Claims To Be "False"

"NO" Roman armies in 70AD wasn't the AOD seen in Luke 21:20 as you continue to push the "False" reformed presterist eschatology

Those spoken about in Luke chapter 21 is a "Future" generation that will be "Eyewitnesses" of the great tribulation and second coming as seen below in bold red

Does Jesus Christ instruct the believer in verse 28 below to look up, their redemption is nigh in the second coming 100% "Yes" and you know it

You disregard biblical truth below, and you continue to teach "False" reformed preterist eschatology in 70AD fulfillment "Why"?

"Look Up Your Redemption Draweth Nigh"

Luke 21:20-28KJV
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.