Remember that just because you don't see this yet doesn't mean my perceptions are incorrect. I've been in enough churches where even the leaders were in agreement with a lie.
Truth must never be measured by how many people assert it. Otherwise the Pharisees would have been judged correct and not Christ. The "crowd" believes in abortion. The "crowd" used to think that it was okay to gas the Jews. The "crowd" used to think that it was okay to have slaves.
I have seen some darkness on this forum. Others have noted it as well. Satan very often tries to suppress the truth and he sometimes works through people; even Christians at times ("Get thee behind me Satan!") An astute observer can note recurring patterns that crop up with specific people. Pay careful attention and you'll know what I mean. It's wiser to reserve judgment until God gives more light but keep in mind that he uses a variety of tricks and schemes and he uses people like a puppet master. Truth is very often hard fought and hard won. Often when some truth is brought out Satan attacks. Those who harbor an evil spirit many times aren't aware of it but the discerning believer can sometimes have good indicators by piecing together what they see and sense. Following patterns may take the employment of higher order thinking skills or tuning into the spirit but you'll see it if you try.
Someday you'll remember these words when Trump shows his hand of who he really is. I have researched this very carefully always keeping in mind that "if it were possible even the elect will be deceived" and "enter in at the strait gate because wide is the road that leads to destruction and narrow is the way that leads to life and few there be who find it." Those words are strong warnings that we should never take lightly. Yet I've seen even pastors who were deceived. That was when I learned to not trust someone just because of the letters after their name, or the position that they hold.
I was formerly a devout Trump supporter. I argued much like you are now. I was even asked to work on his campaign. I prayed and begged God to let him win and when he did I was elated and had hope for the first time in 8 long years of Obominable.
But then I began to notice that all he ever did was talk. We're told "By their FRUITS ye shall know them, not their TALK." Too many Christians have ignored President Trump's chronic lying. (Who is the "Father of Lies"?) They've ignored it when he stocked the WH with globalists instead of nationalists. They ignored it when he claimed that he wouldn't touch SS and he is. They ignored it when he said that he was going to secure our border but hasn't, but has continued moving America into the North American Union; the plans of the illuminati. They ignored it when he claimed the Democrats were coming for your guns, as he has quietly been taking the guns. I could go on but you have to research for yourself because many are doubting Thomases and will only grasp it when they research it themselves. When you do I think you'll reach the same sad conclusion that I have. We're being played. It's the Hegelian Dialectic. It's been played on Americans many many times. We so badly want a savior that we overlook things that we shouldn't. People very often say they want the truth but they don't and they'll fight you when you try to speak it.
I hope and pray above all that you can see that this is meant in the right spirit. I have nothing to gain by expressing these views, except disdain and opposition. I've shared what I feel that God has shown me, at great personal cost to myself. I've had others get angry because they're still believing, as I once did, that Trump is America's savior. But thankfully I have come across other believers who have had the veil removed and they can see through the lies too. Trump is schmoozing conservatives with lies even as he is fulfilling the illuminati agenda. Some believers have the gift of discernment but all true believers have a measure of it if they exercise it. I sometimes will sit and talk to people and try to guess their occupation. My husband & I sat having our coffee out and a man asked to sit with us. We chatted with him and we began discussing occupations. The thought shot into my mind "he's a trucker." I said "What's your occupation?" He said: "I'm a trucker." I had no idea how I knew it but I did. The way someone talks, expresses themselves, etc. all create a picture that sometimes one's spirit can discern. Scripture talks about those who "have their senses trained by reason of use." I don't know what that means but I take it that the more you use it the better it becomes.
I tried to warn my husband about people in a church we attended. I saw the nuances, and picked up on small clues. They turned out to be exactly as I said; very corrupt people who cheated and hurt a lot of people, including us. At the time they were the hottest thing going and very popular, so you can imagine what was thought of me when I didn't like them. God has often led me through such waters of opposition but I guess He's done it for a reason since many times I've had to stand alone for the truth/ what I sensed before things became obvious. I warned a family member about a friend. They dismissed me and I was the bad one for seeing evil in the innocent person who butter wouldn't melt in their mouth! The woman went after the family member's husband. It was NOT me - it was God.
I'm not saying I'm right all the time as I have been fooled by very subtle people who I later believe had a Jezebel spirit; which is very evil and subtle. But what does concern me is how many believers are giving a wink and a nod to Trump. It concerns me when those such as my pastor exclaim that Bush claims to be a Christian. We know that the devil is a liar. We know that he operates in deception. Yet time after time I see Christians take people at their word.
"By their FRUITS ye shall know them."
Time will tell. As in times past the truth will be shown but I'm concerned that by then it will be too late. America is already far along into the NWO. We now live in a Police State. We no longer have much of a Constitution and Trump is saying one thing while doing another. Police shot to death my neighbor's unarmed grandson. Those that executed him weren't held accountable. You can lose your very life or your family member can and then you'll see how we have no Constitutional protections left - or very little.
Let us keep this verse in mind moving forward. We are not dealing with bumpkins; we're dealing with very calculating, ver deceptive, very cunning individuals who know all the psychological maneuvers to play on the public; they've studied it.
John 8:44 - Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.