A Cult or a Cross?

[Behold]

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The Context of the Cross, is what defines a religious cult.

See, when you are trying to understand why, "that one says that, and this christian says that, and others say that".....and you are just CONFUSED...

A.) You have ENTERED the place of finding the answer.

See, until you REALIZE that 40 people all disagreeing, can't all be right....
Until you SEE that OPINION is not Truth, then you are in the DARK, listening to the darkness howl at you.

And the LIGHT, ....Glory to God, is found in the Dark.
Jesus was sent into this DARK WORLD, as a LIGHT SHINING OUT OF THE DARKNESS.
He will shine INTO YOUR HEART as REVELATiON and TRUTH.

So, when you , READER, come to that place of being TIRED of hearing 50 opinions about how to go to heaven, per THREAD... or per Pulpit..regarding how to be accepted by God, and want the TRUTH, then you have finally come to the place of gaining the Knowledge OF IT.
Seek, and you shall find. Knock and it shall be opened.

Where is the ANSWER found?
Only one place.
It's only found by understanding what Jesus meant when He said to the universe from The Cross....>"IT IS FINISHED".

See that? ???
Something is FINISHED, and if you are still trying to do it, and you are listening to the deceivers who are teaching you how YOU are to do it.... then you have not YET come to the Cross where "IT IS FINISHED" already....for you....as "THE GIFT of Salvation".

 

[shortangel]

good point

 

[Behold]

good point

Yes.

Jesus isnt a truth or some truth. Jesus is THE Truth. God is THE TRUTH.
TRUTH, only exists, because GOD/Christ, exit.

Love only exists, because God is Love.
Grace, Mercy, Compassion, Forgiveness, Hope, Pity..........these are some of the functions of Love that only exist because God is Love.

 

[Windmillcharge]

The Context of the Cross, is what defines a religious cult.

Not totaly correct. A ' cult ' is a religous organisation or group that has practices or views consider abnormal by most other groups, or is very insular with there own peculiar views practices, or they have there own authority either in a book or a person.

How an organisation views Jesus, how they say one is saved, there views of other orgsanisations and freiends and family who are not part of the group and there attitude to questions and other views are all indications that an organisation is a cult or a sect.

 

[Behold]

Not totaly correct. A ' cult ' is a religous organisation or group that has practices or views consider abnormal by most other groups,t.

Your definition certainly works, however in a closed system, such as RELIGION, and in a more closed system, such as CHRISTianity, a "cult' would be defined spiritually, based on their theology = regarding one thing, essentially.

1.) The DOCTRINE of Salvation, or, Soteriology., and did they get it right or did they get it wrong.

See that one doctrine, that one Theology?
Cults, all of them, get it wrong. They all believe one thing that defines their entire church, denomination, membership, as a CULT.

What is that one thing?
They do not believe that GOD, through Christ....... maintains their salvation for eternity, and a sub-cult believes that WATER BAPTISM is what saves you.

All "christian" cults deny that Salvation is Eternal.
All "christian" cults deny that Salvation is only based on CHRIST.
All "christian" Cults deny that Salvation is all of God and none of you.

Ive writted about a dozen related Threads on this Forum and on nearly all Christian forums, that detail what a DARK LIGHT, is all about.
Ive a few entittled : "How to Spot a HERETIC", or similar.

And always, its the same ID. Its the same Revelation, its the same Trademark that defines them, their cult, and proves that the devil is behind it all.

See, the devil wants one thing. He wants you, me, all of us, in HELL, and then the Lake of Fire .
Well, he can't have that if we are born again, so, he has a plan for us. He wants to have us become deceived in our FAITH, so that our faith shifts from Jesus, to SELF.......... Keeping self saved. Working to try to stay saved.
See that? That is to become "Fallen from GRACE", as Paul defines it.

All Cults and all Heretics teach a Salvation Doctrine that OMITS God's Grace and inserts, "self effort" "Works" and in some cases Water Baptism.
It other Words all religious "christian" cults, REPLACE the BLOOD OF JESUS and the CROSS OF CHRIST, with SELF EFFORT.

Thats LEGALSIM, and that is the Hallmark of a "christian" cult.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Your definition certainly works, however in a closed system, such as RELIGION,

We are talking about a closed system, about Christianity. The cross is a symbol of Christianity.

 

[Behold]

We are talking about a closed system, about Christianity. The cross is a symbol of Christianity.

I have a beautiful handmand Olive Wood, (from Israel) Cross, that has a sculpture of Jesus on it. ITs strikingly beautiful, and very realistic.
Its just a scupture.... nothing more...but, its a beautiful reminder of the Holy One's Love for me.

Now..

Jesus died on THE CROSS.
That's not symbolic.
That a fact, and a Truth.
And had that CROSS not been raised, with Christ on it, then all of us would be doomed, with no chance to be restored to God.

Christ said this..."if i be LIFTED UP...(on the Cross) ... I will draw all people to me"..

See that?
That is a FACT.

 

[Windmillcharge]

That is a FACT.

Yes a fact, nothing more. The cross is a brutal method of slowly killing someone, as the OT says, ' cursed is everyone who is hung on a cross'.

What is significant is who died and rose again from that death and what they achieved.

The cross is merely a symbol, nothing more.

 

[Behold]

Yes a fact, nothing more. The cross is a brutal method of slowly killing someone, as the OT says, ' cursed is everyone who is hung on a cross'.
What is significant is who died and rose again from that death and what they achieved.
The cross is merely a symbol, nothing more.

Without the Cross there is no Savior on It.

A real preacher will "preach the CROSS".
Just ask Paul, as He said it.
Paul said, i preach Christ Crucified"... And Paul said..>>"The preaching of the CROSS....is the power of God, unto salvation".

Thats not symbolic. That's Gospel.

Also, the OT prophecied exactly HOW Jesus would die, which is on "the Tree" as cursed is everyone who hangs on a/the Tree".
The Cross being raised, is a part of the OT prophecy, that defines for us, Jesus the Savior, Jesus the Redeemer.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Without the Cross there is no Savior on It.

A real preacher will "preach the CROSS".
Just ask Paul, as He said it.
Paul said, i preach Christ Crucified"... And Paul said..>>"The preaching of the CROSS....is the power of God, unto salvation".

Thats not symbolic. That's Gospel.

Also, the OT prophecied exactly HOW Jesus would die, which is on "the Tree" as cursed is everyone who hangs on a/the Tree".
The Cross being raised, is a part of the OT prophecy, that defines for us, Jesus the Savior, Jesus the Redeemer.

I think we are going in circles.
Both of us recognise that the cross on its own is just an object,
That is becomes significant because of Jesus and that it is Jesus who is important..

 

[Behold]

I think we are going in circles.
Both of us recognise that the cross on its own is just an object,
That is becomes significant because of Jesus and that it is Jesus who is important..

No Cross, no Salvation.
No Cross, no Sacrifice for the sin of the World.