A timeline for Christianity, Israel, and the end of days...

[rockytopva]

If you reply to this thread please do so with a timeline like I have provided for you...

If I had to pick an end time date I would go with the scientist, Isaac Newton...

“And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half.” –Daniel 12:7

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060.”" - – Isaac Newton

As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming will be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christ’s coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However… Isaac Newton notes…

“It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." –- Isaac Newton

Before Christ comes the Anti-Christ must be revealed...

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2:3

Who....

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. - Revelation 13:16-18

I traveled to Tahiti and couldn't help but notice all the electronic devices hooked to databases. All you have to do is swipe your passports and all your information comes up. You can even have your iPhone display your ticket information. We are not far away from having everything stored on a universal database in which we will all be required to be tied to! And for most folk this will be just another tattoo! 2060AD is a very close, scientific, and accurate prediction!

I believe that the Ezekiel 38 prophecy happens before 2060 AD


After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. - Ezekiel 38:8

In the latter years... Not at the end of days.... If I had to come up with a timeline...


Seven church ages - 33 - 2053AD
Restoration of Israel - 1948AD
Current Year - 2017AD
Ezekiel 38-39 prophecy - 2027AD
Rebuilding of the temple - 2030AD (Ezekiel 40)
Rapture - 2053 AD
Tribulation - 2053 - 2060 AD ending with the battle of Armageddon
Coming of Christ Jesus - 12.25.2060 - Exactly 1260 years from the time of the inauguration of Charlemagne King.
The Millennial Reign of Christ- 12.25.2060 - 12.25.3060
The Last Battle Against the Old Arch-Angel Lucifer- 1.1.3061
The Great Disassociation- 3061 AD

If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

Mass can disassociate into plasma, and plasma can re-associate into mass, however to the Father's will and liking. In 3061AD I would look for a great Great Disassociation in which all the elements will return to the plasma energy from whence they were forged and God is going to do something else with it. And described in 2 Peter...

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. - 2 Peter 3:10

In which case I am hopes that Christians take their trials with patience, as it is said....

For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. - Hebrews 10:34

And Peter reemphasizing...

Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? - 2 Peter 3:12

 

[keras]

Unfortunately Newton cannot be right, as Daniel 12:10 says;....only in the last days, will a few wise leaders understand.
Also your timeline doesn't take account of the 7000 years decreed for mankind.

The Ezekiel 36:8 prophecy refers to how every righteous person will go to inhabit all of the holy Land before the Return of Jesus.
And the 2 Peter 3:10 prophecy is not a total remake of the universe, just a renovation of the earth. The Greek word 'stoichia', translated 'elements', actually means constructed things; as in buildings and roads, etc.

 

[rockytopva]

Clashes erupt at Temple Mount as Muslim worshipers return to site

Clashes erupt at Temple Mount as Muslim worshipers return to site

I am just wondering if this is not setting up for the Ezekiel 38 prophecy to be fulfilled.

 

[ScottA]

If you reply to this thread please do so with a timeline like I have provided for you...

If I had to pick an end time date I would go with the scientist, Isaac Newton...

“And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half.” –Daniel 12:7

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060.”" - – Isaac Newton

As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming will be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christ’s coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However… Isaac Newton notes…

“It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." –- Isaac Newton

Before Christ comes the Anti-Christ must be revealed...

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2:3

Who....

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. - Revelation 13:16-18

I traveled to Tahiti and couldn't help but notice all the electronic devices hooked to databases. All you have to do is swipe your passports and all your information comes up. You can even have your iPhone display your ticket information. We are not far away from having everything stored on a universal database in which we will all be required to be tied to! And for most folk this will be just another tattoo! 2060AD is a very close, scientific, and accurate prediction!

I believe that the Ezekiel 38 prophecy happens before 2060 AD


After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. - Ezekiel 38:8

In the latter years... Not at the end of days.... If I had to come up with a timeline...


Seven church ages - 33 - 2053AD
Restoration of Israel - 1948AD
Current Year - 2017AD
Ezekiel 38-39 prophecy - 2027AD
Rebuilding of the temple - 2030AD (Ezekiel 40)
Rapture - 2053 AD
Tribulation - 2053 - 2060 AD ending with the battle of Armageddon
Coming of Christ Jesus - 12.25.2060 - Exactly 1260 years from the time of the inauguration of Charlemagne King.
The Millennial Reign of Christ- 12.25.2060 - 12.25.3060
The Last Battle Against the Old Arch-Angel Lucifer- 1.1.3061
The Great Disassociation- 3061 AD

If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

Mass can disassociate into plasma, and plasma can re-associate into mass, however to the Father's will and liking. In 3061AD I would look for a great Great Disassociation in which all the elements will return to the plasma energy from whence they were forged and God is going to do something else with it. And described in 2 Peter...

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. - 2 Peter 3:10

In which case I am hopes that Christians take their trials with patience, as it is said....

For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. - Hebrews 10:34

And Peter reemphasizing...

Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? - 2 Peter 3:12

There is no timeline. It's a story line. History, is his story.

Time is of the world. He who is timeless has laid out what "is" "in Christ" in a way that we can experience it in detail. We're slow. He's fast. He has manifest all things "according to His likeness", not according to the world, not actually on a timeline - but "in the twinkling of and eye." Time is a grand illusion, a media for a Creator and a King.

 

[rockytopva]

In reading the 38th chapter of Ezekiel it looks like the whole world, in the latter days, will turn against Israel.

 

[liafailrock]

Did I hear Newton mentioned? Well ol' Sir Isaac did not believe there was reason for the "world to end" before 2060, but it could go further he believed. He marked 800AD as the beginning of the Pope's supremacy, and using a day for a year added Daniel's 1260 to obtain 2060AD. So he said there was no reason for it to end before then. He also has a very interesting interpretation of Daniel's 70 weeks and BTW the events, the way he interprets them, are not in order. Interesting indeed. But we need more theologians who are also scientists and mathematicians to get a wider understanding of scriptures. I mean, anyone who invents calculus to solve his problems cannot be all bad. You can see in my signature my great esteem for the man. There was, indeed, someone who once existed with the strange mixture of science, math and spirituality that I have and I was not alone. Unbeknownst to many, he was a very learned theologian who could rival any great theological mind of the day, and spoke fluently something like 5 languages and was very well versed in history-- more than a scientist and mathematician.

 

[bbyrd009]

1Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you,

 

[Stranger]

Clashes erupt at Temple Mount as Muslim worshipers return to site

Clashes erupt at Temple Mount as Muslim worshipers return to site

I am just wondering if this is not setting up for the Ezekiel 38 prophecy to be fulfilled.

I was hoping some fighting breaks out on the temple mount and they blow the dome of the rock to kingdom come.

Stranger

 

[Helen]

I was hoping some fighting breaks out on the temple mount and they blow the dome of the rock to kingdom come.

Stranger

Good one Stranger...that made me laugh too. Thank you!! There have been a few good laughs on here today.
I like it much better that the nasty arguments ( even though , they too can become quite entreating! )

When are you going to stop being a stranger and become a friend?

 

[bbyrd009]

God help us

 

[Dcopymope]

Good on Stranger...that made me laugh too. Thank you!! There have been a few good laughs on here today.
I like it much better that the nasty arguments ( even though , they too can become quite entreating! )

When are you going to stop being a stranger and become a friend?
My name is Helen. Now I am not a stranger anymore :)

Not very wise to give out your real name over the internet. It would be in your best interest to remain a total stranger.

 

[Helen]

Not very wise to give out your real name over the internet. It would be in your best interest to remain a total stranger.

I used to believe that to...but honestly "they" have already got all our info.
I never ever use my own birthdate...but really, how secure is secure in this day and age!! But maybe I have watched too many movies! LOL

 

[Dcopymope]

I used to believe that to...but honestly "they" have already got all our info.
I never ever use my own birthdate...but really, how secure is secure in this day and age!! But maybe I have watched too many movies! LOL

The big "they" was not who I was referring to. I'm referring to the lurking unstable psycho's looking for someone to harass. Its been happening to many Youtuber's who feel the need to show their face, name, even address as if that's proving anything to anybody other than their stupidity. You do that at your risk.

 

[Helen]

The big "they" was not who I was referring to. I'm referring to the lurking unstable psycho's looking for someone to harass. Its been happening to many Youtuber's who feel the need to show their face, name, even address as if that's proving anything to anybody other than their stupidity. You do that at your risk.

Oh okay, I must understood what you were saying. Yes true indeed.
Thank you for that. ;)