A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH.

[rwb]

I ask because you have Satan as always being evil ...created evil...and never not being "good". Rather than the biblical view that Satan was created good, then fell when wickedness was found in him.

I present a picture of Satan as the Bible defines him. It is the Bible, not I that tells us from the beginning Satan is a murderer and liar. Yet you insist he was once good? The Bible NEVER gives the view that Satan was once good until he fell. That doctrinal error has been promoted and defended in churches throughout the ages, but it is not from the Bible but read INTO the Bible. Many faithful Christians believe this false doctrine regarding the evil spirit, Satan, originated from the books of the writings of Enoch of Old. In his writings he shows a strange and very mystic understanding of not only Satan but the whole spiritual realm.

When we determine to study FROM what is actually written in the Bible, rather than reading mythological understanding INTO the Bible, to our surprise we discover the evil spirit called Satan is exactly what God through His Divine Providence allows Satan to be, and that is a liar and murderer. Again, to the surprise of many, sin, and evil has from the creation of man been and is being used by God for good. What we think of as bad, God uses for good, that is to eternally save His creation by grace through faith as His fallen people are born again, and through them creation will be saved.

This is why God has written to Christians verses such as: Romans 8:28 (KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Through His Divine Providence God allows bad things to happen even to His people, because even through the bad things Christians experience in this life, God brings about GOOD.

I would imagine next you'll be saying...Satan wasn't the blame for his evil but it was Gods fault for creating him in an evil state..so, because of that Satan won't be punished...or something like that.

This is a gross misunderstanding of God. All that God created was created "very good", even darkness and evil that God does create are used by God that man might come to understand that in their fallen state they will die. God didn't cause A&E to sin and bring death to man. Man could have chosen to obey God and live forever. Consider this: Since man was created without knowing what is good or evil, how would mankind ever come to know the love and goodness of God or even evil? Because these emotions must be experienced for us to understand them. The only way for man to be eternally saved is in knowing that we need a Saviour.

Thinking that Satan won't be punished goes against what is plainly written!

Is there any denomination, authors, commentary, podcast??? that believes the way you do...or is this your own concept?

I study the Word to show myself approved unto God. I stopped relying on other people to teach me the things of God long ago.

1 John 2:27 (KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

 

[rwb]

You seem to be giving Satan some sort of get out of jail free card.
If God made Satan evil...for the sole purpose of evil....then why is Satan guilty?

You seem to be leaning towards being an advocate for Satan with your Satan wasn't created good but rather false theology...

You seem to be very confused! It is not I who says Satan is from the beginning EVIL! It is plainly written in the Word of God. You can believe what is written or continue in denial being led by what you have been taught and have not learned from the Bible.

 

[CrowCross]

You seem to be very confused! It is not I who says Satan is from the beginning EVIL! It is plainly written in the Word of God. You can believe what is written or continue in denial being led by what you have been taught and have not learned from the Bible.

Plainly written in the bible? Where?

If it were plainly written in the bible then we would not be arguing abut it.

What I ...and everyone else...clearly see's in the bible is that Tyrus was a type of Satan. Some of the indications is that Tyrus as well as Adam and Eve were not guardian cherubs.

 

[CrowCross]

This is a gross misunderstanding of God. All that God created was created "very good", even darkness and evil that God does create are used by God that man might come to understand that in their fallen state they will die. God didn't cause A&E to sin and bring death to man. Man could have chosen to obey God and live forever. Consider this: Since man was created without knowing what is good or evil, how would mankind ever come to know the love and goodness of God or even evil? Because these emotions must be experienced for us to understand them. The only way for man to be eternally saved is in knowing that we need a Saviour.

Evil isn't good. Period. What God created was very good...that's what my bible says.

Adam had a concept of what was good as well as what was evil. Adam knew of evil, that is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was wrong, disobedience.
Adam understood more about evil once he ate from the tree.

God doesn't create evil. Can God use evil for good? Yes. God can use mans evil acts and turn them into good.

 

[rwb]

Evil isn't good. Period. What God created was very good...that's what my bible says.

I've never said evil was good! The Bible says that God uses evil to bring about good! Is that too difficult for you?

Man sees only how evil brings about destruction. What we don't see is how God providentially works even through evil to bring about good. Can you not understand how God foresaw the crucifixion of His Son and ordained all that came to pass leading up to the cross. But God....has also ordained a way for all who are born again to partake of eternal life through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I can see how these things are simply too difficult for you to comprehend. NOTHING can separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:35-39 (KJV) Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Adam had a concept of what was good as well as what was evil. Adam knew of evil, that is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was wrong, disobedience.
Adam understood more about evil once he ate from the tree.

Adam and Eve according to what is written in Scripture had no knowledge of good or evil until they ate of the forbidden tree in the midst of the garden of Eden. Without knowing evil, how could Adam have known what it would mean for man to die? Before eating of the forbidden tree, Adam knew only that God said "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Genesis 3:5 (KJV) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Death was unknown util it came into creation through sin. Though the one man that sin and death by sin entered creation. It is only when transgression entered the world that death over every living creation reigned (has dominion) upon the earth. As the text tells us, that began with Adam's transgression.

Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Ro 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Ro 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

God doesn't create evil. Can God use evil for good? Yes. God can use mans evil acts and turn them into good.

You fight against the Word of God. HEAR the words God spoke to His prophet Isaiah:

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.