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it seems Adam was complicit in Eve's sin as she was 'flesh of my flesh bone of my bone as was also the case with Mary and Jesus imho - twinc
All of this sounds quite bizarre and unbiblical.it seems Adam was complicit in Eve's sin as she was 'flesh of my flesh bone of my bone as was also the case with Mary and Jesus imho - twinc
it seems Adam was complicit in Eve's sin as she was 'flesh of my flesh bone of my bone as was also the case with Mary and Jesus imho - twinc
yikes
imho by one woman sin entered the world and by one woman salvation entered the world - twinc
imho by one woman sin entered the world and by one woman salvation entered the world - twinc
the scary part is you're serious twinc, i mean how much more antiScriptural can you possibly get
All of this sounds quite bizarre and unbiblical.
Adam was not "complicit" in Eve's sin, since she managed quite nicely to sin on her own. But Adam knowingly accepted her invitation to eat of the forbidden fruit after she had eaten. He could have refrained from eating, but chose not to, and therefore he is held responsible for bringing a curse on humanity (and on creation).
Mary and Jesus have absolutely nothing to do with this, and Mary is NOT a Mediatrix whatsoever. There is only one Mediator between God and men -- the Man Christ Jesus. Jesus was conceived supernaturally in Mary's womb while she was a virgin. Therefore He was free from the taint of the Adamic sin nature, and was fully sinless Man and fully God at one and the same time.
AMEN!Sin entered through Adam, not Mary,,,which makes this discussion moot.
The Edenic Covenant was made with Adam, not Eve.
There is but one mediater, the man Jesus.
Good post @Enoch111 ,
We might remind Twinc that Mary too, needed a saviour ...
Why not Mary, huh. Does Jesus, -Son of God-savior-GOD need Mary's help in communicating to his children most especially in light of the Gospel? That curtain has been rent from top to bottom opening the ONLY way to God The Father-Jesus. Yes, Mary is to be honored among women...does NOT mean she has ANY part in our WAY to God Almighty.you had your saviour before you were born why not Mary - twinc
lots of reasons; marriage as a concept is being ignored--Adam and Eve are really two aspects of one person, a relationship that Mary does not share with Jesus--Scripture is being ignored, in many places, and Virgin Cult worship is being advanced, imo.you had your saviour before you were born why not Mary - twinc
Sin entered through Adam, not Mary,,,which makes this discussion moot.
The Edenic Covenant was made with Adam, not Eve.
There is but one mediater, the man Jesus.
Why not Mary, huh. Does Jesus, -Son of God-savior-GOD need Mary's help in communicating to his children most especially in light of the Gospel? That curtain has been rent from top to bottom opening the ONLY way to God The Father-Jesus. Yes, Mary is to be honored among women...does NOT mean she has ANY part in our WAY to God Almighty.
-Peace and grace to you!
-nancy
lots of reasons; marriage as a concept is being ignored--Adam and Eve are really two aspects of one person, a relationship that Mary does not share with Jesus--Scripture is being ignored, in many places, and Virgin Cult worship is being advanced, imo.
Iow just another day in the life of a Catholic, i guess
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The Virgin cult which managed to attach itself to Mary was not originally Marian because it stems from deep antiquity. In Biblical times it had its most recent installment in Pallas Athena. The noun παλλας (pallas) means youth or the childlike conditions just prior to the adolescent journey to adulthood, and the verb παλλω (pallo) means to exist in the stationary conditions just prior to a setting off (of a missile being launched, of lots to be tossed).
It's not wholly clear where the name Athena technically comes from but various stories suggest that it represents a plural (Athenai) which in turn refers to a cluster of divine daughters of Zeus, which were personifications of city states, or more precise: the societies that could crystallize by merit of specific social theories and their enforcement..." http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Mary.html#.W1eO3NJKiUl
emphasis on the "enforcement" part, of course "Pax" was a cruel joke to those ruled by Rome from afar, as well as to poor Romans; and only became one to the rich at the Fall of Empire, when they all ate each other.
Roman "Pax" is always at the point of a gun
sin really entered the world through Eve - why do you not accept what the bible says at 1 Timothy 2:14 - twinc
this is getting pretty ridic imo; we got enough Catholics in the woodpile here yet, guys?
their "church" is melting, so let's let them dictate to ours now?
how can i in good conscience post a thread next to this pagan yack?