(Adultery) C.I. Scofield And Dispensationalism's Foundations

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Truth7t7

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Yes!! Satan loves to attack men of God but woe to those that help him!!!
Men of God?

Hal Lindsey on his 4th marriage (Adultery) :confused:

John Hagee married to Diana Castro while his wife Martha lives? (Adultery) :confused:
 

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Salma/Salmon was father of the house of Rechab, Jesus was in the lineage of the house of Rechab, not of the prostitute Rehab as you claim

Matthew 1:5KJV

5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

Salma/Salmon is the father of the house of Rechab

1 Chronicles 2:54-55KJV

54 The sons of Salma; Bethlehem, and the Netophathites, Ataroth, the house of Joab, and half of the Manahethites, the Zorites.
55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

Jeremiah 35:17-19KJV
17 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them: because I have spoken unto them, but they have not heard; and I have called unto them, but they have not answered.
18 And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you:
19 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab shall not want a man to stand before me for ever.
Rechab is just another spelling for Rahab. There's lots of misspelled names in the KJV. Get yourself a more accurate translation or maybe just read the old testament carefully.
Do you actually believe it's better to be a murderer and adulterer like king David, than to be an adulteress or prostitute?
 

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Calling Pre-trib and dual covenant theology being out in left field was nice, it's my opinion the teachings are false deception

So hypothetically, if they are false deception, then they would be harmfull. Dual covenant results in love for Israel and pre trib results in hope for the future.
What's the harm in that?
 

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Rechab is just another spelling for Rahab. There's lots of misspelled names in the KJV. Get yourself a more accurate translation or maybe just read the old testament carefully.
Do you actually believe it's better to be a murderer and adulterer like king David, than to be an adulteress or prostitute?
You have been shown that Jesus is in the lineage of Salma/Salmon father of the house of Rechab, not of the prostitue Rehab as you claimed

David was a repentant murderer/adulterer try reading the Psalms one day
 

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At no time did I accuse them, I merely stated they were Dallas Theological Alumni, your claims are "False"
I didn't claim that you did but asked how will you accuse them, Satan. So now you accuse me with another lie, and we all know who is the father of lies.
 

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So hypothetically, if they are false deception, then they would be harmfull. Dual covenant results in love for Israel and pre trib results in hope for the future.
What's the harm in that?
Because both are false teachings not found in scripture, it's that simple
 

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I didn't claim that you did but asked how will you accuse them, Satan. So now you accuse me with another lie, and we all know who is the father of lies.
At no time have I called you a liar as claimed, it's my opinion your playing the word game salad in diversion, have fun with your folly
 

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Because both are false teachings not found in scripture, it's that simple

False teaching is always harmfull, as it says you shall know them by their fruit. The fruit of those are love and hope.
If they are false they would be harmfull. I'm waiting for your answer.
 
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False teaching is always harmfull, as it says you shall know them by their fruit. The fruit of those are love and hope.
If they were false they would be harmfull. I'm waiting for your answer.
We have run about the bush several times, I disagree with your opinion
 

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What of king David a man God loved?? Saul who became Paul?? try to think!!
David and Paul were both repentant sinners

Hal Lindsey & John Hagee are living in the sin of Adultery
 
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(Adultery) C.I. Scofield And Dispensationalism's Foundations

C.I. Scofield is the modern father of Dispensationalsim, he was instrumental in the founding of (Dallas Theological Seminary) as (Lewis S. Chafer) was his student and disciple.

Dallas Theological Alumni:
Hal Lindsey, David Jeremiah, J. Vernon McGee, Chuck Swindoll, Tim La Haye, Thomas Ice, Charles Ryrie

The Scofield Reference Bible 1909, maintained (Dispensationalism's) teachings in the margins

The 1909 reference bible was the single greatest source and influence in spreading (Dispensationalism) throughout the world, with millions of copies sold, and on pulpits and under arms from 1909-1970 in the majority

C.I. Scofield was married to Leotine, and had two daughters, he abandoned them in Kansas without support and ended up pastoring a Church in Dallas Texas at 41 years old, there he met the Sunday School college girl (Hettie Van Wart) 24 years old, Scofield divorced his wife Leotine and married Hettie in 1884 (Adultery)

(Adultery) Scofield remained married to Hettie until his death in 1921,while his lawful wife Leotine lived, dying in 1936

C.I. Scofield produced the greatest influence in the world relating to (Dispensationalism) in his 1909 reference bible, while Hettie was the secretary and assistant on this work, that was produced by (Adulterers) C.I. Scofield & Hettie Van Wart (Corrupt Fruit)

Matthew 7:17-18KJV
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
In my experience those that bark the loudest about the sins of others whether it's adultery, theft, oppression etc, use it as a smokescreen to divert attention from their own sins.
 

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Salma/Salmon was father of the house of Rechab, Jesus was in the lineage of the house of Rechab, not of the prostitute Rehab as you claim

Matthew 1:5KJV

5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

Salma/Salmon is the father of the house of Rechab

1 Chronicles 2:54-55KJV

54 The sons of Salma; Bethlehem, and the Netophathites, Ataroth, the house of Joab, and half of the Manahethites, the Zorites.
55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

Jeremiah 35:17-19KJV
17 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them: because I have spoken unto them, but they have not heard; and I have called unto them, but they have not answered.
18 And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you:
19 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab shall not want a man to stand before me for ever.
Salma/Salmon was father of the house of Rechab, Jesus was in the lineage of the house of Rechab, not of the prostitute Rehab as you claim

Matthew 1:5KJV

5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

Salma/Salmon is the father of the house of Rechab

1 Chronicles 2:54-55KJV

54 The sons of Salma; Bethlehem, and the Netophathites, Ataroth, the house of Joab, and half of the Manahethites, the Zorites.
55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

Jeremiah 35:17-19KJV
17 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them: because I have spoken unto them, but they have not heard; and I have called unto them, but they have not answered.
18 And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you:
19 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab shall not want a man to stand before me for ever.
Matthew 1:5
New King James Version

5 Salmon begot Boaz by Rahab, Boaz begot Obed by Ruth, Obed begot Jesse,

The KJV is not an inspired translation and the NKJV is widely accepted as more accurate.

The English standard version translates the same:
Matthew 1:5
English Standard Version

5 and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse,

As does the American standard version
Matthew 1:5
American Standard Version

5 and Salmon begat Boaz of Rahab; and Boaz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

The point being that Rahab, in giving aid to the spies of Israel, believed God and was accounted as righteous.
Even Ruth, who was clearly righteous, and in the lineage,was not a Hebrew but from Moab. And you haven't bothered to address the iniquity of King David.
The blood lines are given to validate Jesus' legal right to the throne of David and the fulfillment of prophecy concerning the Messianic promises, not as some proof of righteous parentage and lineage.
 

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For the record I believe dual covenant theology is false, but so is replacement theology.
 

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You have been shown that Jesus is in the lineage of Salma/Salmon father of the house of Rechab, not of the prostitue Rehab as you claimed

David was a repentant murderer/adulterer try reading the Psalms one day
Where
At no time have I called you a liar as claimed, it's my opinion your playing the word game salad in diversion, have fun with your folly
I didn't say that you called me a liar. That's another lie.
You seem to lie and make false accusations quite readily, but perhaps you just have poor reading comprehension. If that's the case, why should anyone value your interpretations of scripture?
 
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I didn't say that you called me a liar. That's another lie.
You seem to lie and make false accusations quite readily, but perhaps you just have poor reading comprehension. If that's the case, why should anyone value your interpretations of scripture?
Salma/Salmon was father of the house of Rechab, Jesus was in the lineage of the house of Rechab, not of the prostitute Rehab as you claim

Matthew 1:5KJV

5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

Salma/Salmon is the father of the house of Rechab

1 Chronicles 2:54-55KJV

54 The sons of Salma; Bethlehem, and the Netophathites, Ataroth, the house of Joab, and half of the Manahethites, the Zorites.
55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

Jeremiah 35:17-19KJV
17 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them: because I have spoken unto them, but they have not heard; and I have called unto them, but they have not answered.
18 And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you:
19 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab shall not want a man to stand before me for ever.
 

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(Adultery) C.I. Scofield And Dispensationalism's Foundations

C.I. Scofield is the modern father of Dispensationalsim, he was instrumental in the founding of (Dallas Theological Seminary) as (Lewis S. Chafer) was his student and disciple.

Dallas Theological Alumni:
Hal Lindsey, David Jeremiah, J. Vernon McGee, Chuck Swindoll, Tim La Haye, Thomas Ice, Charles Ryrie

The Scofield Reference Bible 1909, maintained (Dispensationalism's) teachings in the margins

The 1909 reference bible was the single greatest source and influence in spreading (Dispensationalism) throughout the world, with millions of copies sold, and on pulpits and under arms from 1909-1970 in the majority

C.I. Scofield was married to Leotine, and had two daughters, he abandoned them in Kansas without support and ended up pastoring a Church in Dallas Texas at 41 years old, there he met the Sunday School college girl (Hettie Van Wart) 24 years old, Scofield divorced his wife Leotine and married Hettie in 1884 (Adultery)

(Adultery) Scofield remained married to Hettie until his death in 1921,while his lawful wife Leotine lived, dying in 1936

C.I. Scofield produced the greatest influence in the world relating to (Dispensationalism) in his 1909 reference bible, while Hettie was the secretary and assistant on this work, that was produced by (Adulterers) C.I. Scofield & Hettie Van Wart (Corrupt Fruit)

Matthew 7:17-18KJV
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.


Matthew 19:v.9 - JESUS said:
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery:
and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

1 Corinthians 6:v.9-10

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of GOD?

Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor ADULTERERS, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.