AI Trolls?

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Are we being trolled by AI bots? It seems like it to me. Shallow and incomplete knowledge of Scripture? Simplistic arguments? Inability to answer appropriately to more nuanced responses?

I get AI robo-calls at my work now on a regular basis. It seems the same kinds of responses that stump the robo-callers also seem to shut down suspected AI bots.

What do you think?

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If this is true, engaging with AI bots only makes them more devious.

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It's quite possible. Have you noticed all the AI-generated videos on YT? Pay close attention. They'll throw content out to your YT feed based on what you've been watching and searching, and based on your conversations that they listen in on.

I think it's a good idea for us to find ways to do things without and away from our electronics for chunks of time during the days. Time doing yard work, gardening, taking walks, sitting in the sun and listening to nature, etc ....outside with our Bibles, maybe an "old fashioned" CD or MP3 player (with no wifi or Bluetooth capabilities) listening to worship music while we work ....things like that.
 
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It's quite possible. Have you noticed all the AI-generated videos on YT? Pay close attention. They'll throw content out to your YT feed based on what you've been watching and searching, and based on your conversations that they listen in on. I think it's a good idea for us to find ways to do things without and away from our electronics for chunks of time during the days.
Also, if you like a video or have a YT account and save.

I think it would explain the number of Trolls and their focus. Notice when the Israel Hamas war started, Trolls supporting Hamas,or striving to make Judaism look bad under an account that claimed to be Jewish,even in their screen name,started to join?

Would there be something in their IP address that would show they're a bot?
 
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It's quite possible. Have you noticed all the AI-generated videos on YT? Pay close attention. They'll throw content out to your YT feed based on what you've been watching and searching, and based on your conversations that they listen in on. I think it's a good idea for us to find ways to do things without and away from our electronics for chunks of time during the days.
I don't do too much on YouTube beyond my hymns and sermons from known sources, and all those cat vids, "workers that are at totally higher level", the newest air car, stuff like that.

But I expect you are fully correct!

I don't have a smart phone, I don't have home internet, my wife feels exactly like I do about this, so we have real limits to our online access. I agree on that part too!

Much love!
 

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Are we being trolled by AI bots? It seems like it to me. Shallow and incomplete knowledge of Scripture? Simplistic arguments? Inability to answer appropriately to more nuanced responses?

I get AI robo-calls at my work now on a regular basis. It seems the same kinds of responses that stump the robo-callers also seem to shut down suspected AI bots.

What do you think?

Much love!
I thought of your thread here when I opened an old thread posted by a new member months ago.
It was just revived after being dormant for nearly a month.



Read the OP. Does that sound like a language style a bot would use? It just doesn't ring true to how a human communicates.

Then scroll down to the reply by TomKBrown. He's another new member who joined the month following the new member who wrote that OP. Both he and Fred have very few posts. And Tom's language style is similar to Fred's.
 
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I thought of your thread here when I opened an old thread posted by a new member months ago.
It was just revived after being dormant for nearly a month.



Read the OP. Does that sound like a language style a bot would use? It just doesn't ring true to how a human communicates.

Then scroll down to the reply by TomKBrown. He's another new member who joined the month following the new member who wrote that OP. Both he and Fred have very few posts. And Tom's language style is similar to Fred's.
Tom has much better grammar and punctuation than Fred. I certainly see what you mean just the same! Tom is very formal and oddly succinct.

It's an interesting thing to think about for me, that we will be, and probibly are now, interacting unknowingly with AI impersonating humans.

Much love!
 

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Are we being trolled by AI bots? It seems like it to me. Shallow and incomplete knowledge of Scripture? Simplistic arguments? Inability to answer appropriately to more nuanced responses?

I get AI robo-calls at my work now on a regular basis. It seems the same kinds of responses that stump the robo-callers also seem to shut down suspected AI bots.

What do you think?

Much love!
I've been suspecting it....wonder if there is any way to know for sure.
 

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I've been suspecting it....wonder if there is any way to know for sure.
I don't know, but I'm going with, "If it quacks like a duck . . ." I'm not going to be the one to sharpen them up. I think this is a great time to double down on ignoring ignorant questions.

What always seems to confound AI when I'm engaging it are questions that are not directly responsive to their topic, while still in line with it, but that require a more thoughtful answer, or knowledge not part of their discussion as of yet. But as they get better, that won't work as well.

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I don't know, but I'm going with, "If it quacks like a duck . . ." I'm not going to be the one to sharpen them up. I think this is a great time to double down on ignoring ignorant questions.

What always seems to confound AI when I'm engaging it are questions that are not directly responsive to their topic, while still in line with it, but that require a more thoughtful answer, or knowledge not part of their discussion as of yet. But as they get better, that won't work as well.

Much love!
They have developed AI far beyond what most people realize.
 

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They have developed AI far beyond what most people realize.
I can believe that. I saw an advertisement a few months ago that featured a beautiful woman as the spokesperson.
Turns out she doesn't actually exist. She's AI.
 

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AI "people" is referred to as Deepfake.
Just ask Keanu Reeves.

ModelScope is also out there in the meme sphere. It claims to be able to take any sentence and create a video from it.
 

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I don't know, but I'm going with, "If it quacks like a duck . . ." I'm not going to be the one to sharpen them up. I think this is a great time to double down on ignoring ignorant questions.

What always seems to confound AI when I'm engaging it are questions that are not directly responsive to their topic, while still in line with it, but that require a more thoughtful answer, or knowledge not part of their discussion as of yet. But as they get better, that won't work as well.

Much love!
Think it should be illegal to use AI without clearly identifying it as such. It seems fraudulent otherwise.
 

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Think it should be illegal to use AI without clearly identifying it as such. It seems fraudulent otherwise.
Just the same, there's a lot of it going around. Universities are starting to wonder how they will know if a student actually wrote a paper.

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Just the same, there's a lot of it going around. Universities are starting to wonder how they will know if a student actually wrote a paper.

Much love!
Right here we go-I use ChatGpt with my own personal studies and find it just fine-@Marks.


Greek Text
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.

English Translation
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Morphological Breakdown
Ἐν (en): Preposition, expressing location or time. It takes a dative case.

Function: Indicates the starting point of time.
ἀρχῇ (archē): Noun, dative singular feminine of ἀρχή (archē).

Meaning: "beginning" or "origin."
Function: The subject of the preposition, showing the time frame in which the Word existed.
ἦν (ēn): Verb, imperfect indicative active of εἰμί (eimi).

Meaning: "was."
Function: Describes the continuous state of existence.
ὁ (ho): Definite article, nominative singular masculine.

Function: Precedes a noun, indicating specificity.
Λόγος (Logos): Noun, nominative singular masculine.

Meaning: "Word."
Function: The subject of the verb, denoting the pre-existent Christ.
καὶ (kai): Conjunction.

Meaning: "and."
Function: Connects clauses, indicating that the next statement is equally true.
πρὸς (pros): Preposition, taking the accusative case.

Meaning: "toward" or "with."
Function: Indicates a relationship or direction towards the object that follows.
τὸν (ton): Definite article, accusative singular masculine.

Function: Precedes a noun, indicating specificity.
Θεόν (Theon): Noun, accusative singular masculine.

Meaning: "God."
Function: The object of the preposition, indicating the Word’s relationship to God.
καὶ (kai): Conjunction.

Function: Connects clauses.
Θεὸς (Theos): Noun, nominative singular masculine.

Meaning: "God."
Function: Subject of the verb in the third clause.
ἦν (ēn): Verb, same as above.

ὁ (ho): Definite article, same as above.

Λόγος (Logos): Noun, same as above.

Syntactical Analysis
First Clause: "Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος"

Structure: Prepositional phrase (Ἐν ἀρχῇ) + verb phrase (ἦν ὁ Λόγος).
Meaning: The Word existed in the beginning, emphasizing the eternal nature of the Logos.
Second Clause: "καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν"

Structure: Conjunction (καὶ) + subject (ὁ Λόγος) + verb (ἦν) + prepositional phrase (πρὸς τὸν Θεόν).
Meaning: The Word was with God, indicating a close, intimate relationship between the Word and God.
Third Clause: "καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος"

Structure: Conjunction (καὶ) + subject (Θεὸς) + verb (ἦν) + subject complement (ὁ Λόγος).
Meaning: The Word was God, affirming the divinity of the Logos and its equality with God.
Theological Implications
Eternal Pre-existence: The phrase "Ἐν ἀρχῇ" indicates that the Word existed before all creation.
Relationship with God: The term "πρὸς τὸν Θεόν" signifies a distinct yet united relationship within the Godhead, important for understanding the Trinity.
Divine Nature: The assertion "Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος" affirms the full divinity of Jesus, rejecting any notion of Him being a lesser being or a created entity.

Do you have a problem with this? I don't and like you I have nothing in my house, no TV, furniture etc.

We can parse this if you like using ChatGpt-
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I had a prophetic dream in April 2021. I saw red, green, and blue aluminum blocks. The periodic table of aluminum is AI. Red, Green, and blue combines all colors at 24 bit. So, in 2024, AI is big now.
 

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I don't and like you I have nothing in my house, no TV, furniture etc.
If I visit you can I bring a folding chair to sit in because if I sit in the floor I may have to stay longer than you would like for me to .:oldman:
 
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It just doesn't ring true to how a human communicates.

Tom is very formal and oddly succinct.
The AI responses I have a read are like you are reading a text book , everything is perfect and no misspellings . The human factor seems to be missing in what is said , and that would make sense . No personal observations are offered is usually the case .
I have seen an AI forum response generator online that can be set for casual , formal , friendly and other .
 
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