Ai's analysis on "the great and dreadful day of the LORD" - your thoughts?

[Spiritual Israelite]

Imagine if you were a person who lived in Thessalonica.

This coming wrath wouldn't be 2,000 YEARS later.

This would be in conjunction with the coming great and dreadful day of the Lord.

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When Jesus comes in the future all unbelievers will experience God's wrath when being cast into the lake of fire and Jesus rescues all of us from that. In no way, shape or forum did Paul say anything there to indicate that "the coming wrath" had to occur soon. If you think that relates to 70 AD, why would Paul have written to people in Thessalonica about being rescued from God's wrath that occurred in Jerusalem?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

okay, that a friendly reply. I am a futurist. How would you describe your overall view - historist? partial preterist ?

He is a full preterist.

 

[MatthewG]

He is a full preterist.

Preterist has a lot of facets to it. I don't claim preterism though I believe things have happened in the past.

I believe in the fulfillment of Christ, sir. Please understand that.

 

[MatthewG]

When Jesus comes in the future all unbelievers will experience God's wrath when being cast into the lake of fire and Jesus rescues all of us from that. In no way, shape or forum did Paul say anything there to indicate that "the coming wrath" had to occur soon. If you think that relates to 70 AD, why would Paul have written to people in Thessalonica about being rescued from God's wrath that occurred in Jerusalem?

I hope you see it, sir.

I believe you are mistaken, did you read the 1 thessalonians had shared earlier? That is Paul, writing concerning the coming wrath. This indicates it was coming, perhaps even started already.

 

[MatthewG]

Ill use the bible against false ideas and things people suggest!

When it comes to those want a discussion but when its a truth given many people back away.

Hold on to whatever you want but I believe Yahavah can shake peoples faith which can bring them to a faith which is not shakable.


Ive been on here for the past several years bringing up different points of value, I still have not moved from them or been shaken by Yahavah because of what other people have been sayings....

End of the world
Jesus is coming back
Satan is still around.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm someone who believes Yeshua completed everything and has handed everything back to his Father and we live in a restored world today - where the evil that exist, resides within our own selves....



But most of the time, people are gonna try to deflect, and they will tear apart scriptures, and they wont read.... and that is the sad part.


They wont read the bible for themselves, and they continue to believe other people and what they believe because "majority rules right."


Go figure... lol. Im fine where I am, and people think I am a devil, a con-man, a false teacher, a deceiver yada yada yada.

Believe whatever you want, you are going to anyway, but don't believe me... read the bible for yourself.