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I guess I really don't understand where all the hatred is coming from.
The hatred is coming from Satan. The Satanic agenda was to destroy America from within, since it is the last bastion of freedom (in principle at least). Obama spent eight years in undermining the country which gave him the opportunity to become a president (even though he was totally unqualified). Then he spent the next three years masterminding a conspiracy of sedition and treason against Trump. Since all the Democratic efforts to oust Trump illegally failed, the next step is to illegally steal the upcoming election from Trump. But the hatred is visceral because the Leftist agenda for America was temporarily frustrated.
There seems to be an entitlement mentality among the anarchists, like they are owed something, and they're going to destroy things until they get it. Maybe someone can explain this.
It all began with Affirmative Action after the Civil Rights Act was passed. Black Democratic politicians at all levels had no interest in the uplift of their people. But they hungered for power and wealth. So they began a campaign of Black Racism which would falsely claim that America had done nothing for blacks, therefore they were owed reparations (as well as the moon). The fact of the matter is that black Democratic politicians are not only incompetent but evil. They have destroyed all the major cities of America. So now BLM and Antifa are helping them to complete the destruction of America, and make it worse than a banana republic or a third world country. And the billions of dollars from George Soros is making all of this a reality.

But the blame does not rest entirely with the evil Democrats. The feckless and treasonous RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) have stood by and watched the destruction of America while doing absolutely nothing. They have been dancing to the tune of the Democrats for decades, hence the Never Trumpers, the Anti-Trumpers, and the Lincoln Project. They all betrayed Trump when they could have wholeheartedly supported him and turned things around. And now they will pay for it when America becomes "The Peoples Republic of the Democrats" and the RINOs are banished to a Gulag.
 
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The hatred is coming from Satan. The Satanic agenda was to destroy America from within, since it is the last bastion of freedom (in principle at least).
Yes, I know this. I was referring to the individuals who are so full of hatred toward this nation. I know that the media has a lot of influence, particularly cop-killing rap songs and such, but there must be other influences.
 

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Yes, I know this. I was referring to the individuals who are so full of hatred toward this nation. I know that the media has a lot of influence, particularly cop-killing rap songs and such, but there must be other influences.
Here's a clue about why there is so much hatred. It mostly comes down to what children are being taught. In this racial "melting pot," every skin color should be okay, but we've gone from black is not okay to white is not okay....

Ibram Kendi's Board Book Teaches Even Babies To Hate White People
 
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Recently, I was reading through my journal, and I came across an entry that I wrote on August 4, 2019 (a year ago). This is what I wrote:

I see this nation as a boiling cauldron--bubbling up--like a pot that could boil over. The hatred is that strong and growing.
As I "saw" this and wrote it in my journal, I remember having NO idea what it meant, but I had been spending time in the Lord's presence, and He had been speaking to me about various things that day, so I knew it was from Him. Certain groups in America want to destroy this nation. The anarchists are seething with anger. I've seen it in their eyes in videos; I've heard it in their voices....

As Christians, we need to be careful not to fight hate with hate. We need to show the love of Jesus more than ever!!! I'm praying for revival!

As Christians living in the U.S., I believe it's time to decide whether we will defend our nation, and our families, or just lay down like most have been doing that has allowed Christ's enemies who seek to overthrow our nation to get a foot hold in America. It's important to understand that per Luke 22 about Jesus telling His disciples that had extra money to go buy a sword if they didn't have one, that that is about the right He gave Christians to be able to defend ourselves. This is also why the U.S. founders in 1791 put the 2nd Ammendment about the right of the people to bear arms in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States of America. All elected officials in the U.S., the President, congress, senate, military, police, firemen, etc., take the oath to defend that Constitution of the United States of America, and it is we the people who have the right and duty to hold those accountable who violate that oath by removing them from office. Since Christians are inherently peace-loving because of our Faith and love for our Heavenly Father and His Son and His ways, we are not the attackers, but we are to be defenders of the Faith and make a stand for Christ Jesus. So do not fear and prepare to defend your families, your home, and your country.


 

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Yes, I know this. I was referring to the individuals who are so full of hatred toward this nation. I know that the media has a lot of influence, particularly cop-killing rap songs and such, but there must be other influences.

Well brother, where have you been? how is it that you haven't been aware of Christ's enemies throughout the history of our nation? You're not another one of those who think the subject of history is boring are you?

Particularly since the 1930's, our nation has been under subversive attack by world Communism. It has also been Communism that has supplied middle east nations against Israel and the U.S. So where have you been?

In a 1958 book The Naked Communist, ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen listed 45 strategic long-range points Communism developed for the takeover of the United States of America. Many of America's leaders have commented on Skousen's book being an excellent source on understanding world Communism and their long-range goals. I think those Communist strategic points ought to be taught in every American history class in grade school so Americans grow up recognizing our nation's main enemy, atheistic-Communism.

 

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So do not fear and prepare to defend your families, your home, and your country.
I am not against Christian families defending themselves, but I would put prayer at the top of the list of what we should be doing. Also, we cannot forget our main mission, which I believe is to preach the gospel.

Well brother, where have you been? how is it that you haven't been aware of Christ's enemies throughout the history of our nation? You're not another one of those who think the subject of history is boring are you?

Particularly since the 1930's, our nation has been under subversive attack by world Communism. It has also been Communism that has supplied middle east nations against Israel and the U.S. So where have you been?

In a 1958 book The Naked Communist, ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen listed 45 strategic long-range points Communism developed for the takeover of the United States of America. Many of America's leaders have commented on Skousen's book being an excellent source on understanding world Communism and their long-range goals. I think those Communist strategic points ought to be taught in every American history class in grade school so Americans grow up recognizing our nation's main enemy, atheistic-Communism.

Well.....I'm a sister, but I agree that Communists have had a big influence on our nation as a whole. We see this as the self-proclaimed socialists like Bernie Sanders and Progressive socialists like AOC and Kamala Harris have gained ground politically.

What I was addressing in my comment above is why some blacks hate whites so much in light of the fact that racism against blacks has diminished since the 1960s when the Civil Rights Acts was passed. Some of this was good, but I believe that in some ways the government went too far in trying to level the playing field with forced nationwide busing and racial quotas.... It just seems that it's never enough for some people.
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Biblically, God points to a certain nation of atheistic-Communism as one of Israel's main enemies, even though he was a brother to Jacob.

When Rebekah, Isaac's wife, conceived and there was a stir in her womb, she prayed to God about it. He told her there were two manner of people in her womb, and that the elder would serve the younger (Genesis 25). That was about her two sons Jacob and Esau, with Esau as the elder child.

Esau was to receive God's Birthright since he was the firstborn of Isaac. But God had already told Rebekah that Jacob would receive the Birthright. And so it was, Esau, who was a cunning hunter of the field was hungry because of lack of finding game. He came to his brother Jacob who apparently farmed and had a red pottage, likely lintels, beans. Jacob said to him, "Sell me this day thy birthright." Esau agreed, and did eat.

God didn't see what Esau did as a light thing. And obviously later with Isaac's blessing, Esau didn't take Jacob's idea seriously. But God did. Rebekah disguised Jacob as the elder Esau, and even prepared the deer venison that Isaac loved, and went in to Isaac who was on his death bed to receive the Blessing. Thus Isaac received the Birthright Blessing from Isaac, which included the Blessing God had first given through Abraham, and then Esau returned and went in to Isaac and asked for the Blessing. But Isaac then realized what Jacob had done, and told Esau that his brother Jacob had already received his Blessing. So Esau cried for a Blessing also (Genesis 27).

In the KJV of Genesis 27:39, it would appear that Isaac gave Esau the same Blessing as went to Jacob. But in the Revised version the Hebrew includes a wording that shows the idea of Esau's blessing being 'away from' everything given in Jacob's Blessing. Thus Esau's dwelling would be 'away from' the fatness of the earth, and away from the dew of the heaven above (Gen.27:39). Esau would also be named Edom which means 'red', and his country also as Edom, which was on the southeastern side below the Dead Sea. Esau's skin when he came out of the womb was a reddish color, so red is attributed to him and to the name of his country. The Greeks called the country Idumea. Edom was conquered later in its history by the Jews, and the Edomites were compelled to become religious Jews. They disappeared among the Jews along with them in the Roman's destruction of Jerusalem and the Diaspora. Many of them left the Babylon captivity of the Jews and were further scattered in the countries like the house of Judah was. But Esau also married wives of some of the families of Ishmael (Arabs) and also the Canaanites, thus the connection of Esau's children also with the Arab peoples. Even king Herod who had John the Baptist executed, was an Idumean, a converted Jew descended from Esau.

Looking at the Birthright Blessing involving Esau, his fate would be 'away from' the fatness of the earth, and away from the dew of heaven; that has been so. He profaned God's Birthright, showed disbelief (atheism). Even after his brother had received the Blessing, he still did not show faith in God, but only asked his father Isaac to bless him anyway, as if it was Isaac that had total authority and power over what God had ordained. And Esau's atheism in the latter days has been shown with the 'reds' of Communism. Russia is located away from the fatness of the earth and historically has had to rely on economic help from the nations which God has blessed per Jacob's Birthright. At one time prior to the Communist revolution of 1917, Russia had been known as a Christian nation, with a Christian king and queen who's bloodlines were descended from Queen Victoria of Great Britain. The 'reds' murdered that royal family and stole the nation.

Today, Russia is involved in the Ezekiel 38 alignment of nations that are to come upon the land of Israel in the last days. Aligned with Russia are the nations of Libya, Iran-Iraq, ex-Soviet satellites like Georgia, and Sudan (used to be part of ancient Ethiopia), and Turkey (old Togarmah). It is thus no mystery that the Communists in Russia have aided and supported radical Islam against Israel and the Christian nations, even though there are still many Christians in the nation of Russia today.
 
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I am not against Christian families defending themselves, but I would put prayer at the top of the list of what we should be doing. Also, we cannot forget our main mission, which I believe is to preach the gospel.

Well.....I'm a sister, but I agree that Communists have had a big influence on our nation as a whole. We see this as the self-proclaimed socialists like Bernie Sanders and Progressive socialists like AOC and Kamala Harris have gained ground politically.

What I was addressing in my comment above is why some blacks hate whites so much in light of the fact that racism against blacks has diminished since the 1960s when the Civil Rights Acts was passed. Some of this was good, but I believe that in some ways the government went too far in trying to level the playing field with forced nationwide busing and racial quotas.... It just seems that it's never enough for some people.
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I'm not against prayer, but when God showed us what He ordained to happen at the end per His Word, we have no excuse to not prepare per His warnings. And prayer against what He ordained is not going to work, for that would be going against Him. In these situations He told us how to act and what to do. So it's not like He left us all alone to decide for ourselves. Those who don't know how we are to react to what's going on today show they haven't gotten into His Word enough to know. I'll give a hint: the historical Babylon captivity by the house of Judah serves as a blueprint for the end of this world. God told Judah to not fight that captivity, that He would take care of them through the 70 years and bless them. And so it was, God blessed the house of Judah while captive to Babylon, their numbers increased, they built houses and planted vineyards. They were so comfortable even, that the majority of the house of Judah chose to stay in Babylon after the 70 years, with only a remnant that actually returned to Jerusalem. What they refused was to bow to the golden image idol that Nebuchadnezzar had setup in false worship. God rebuked ole Neb and made him live with the beasts of the field, going crazy, until Neb turned and admitted God's Authority. Nebuchadnezzar actually wrote the Daniel 4 Chapter. Thus we are to be patient through the coming great tribulation, because it is going to be a time when the gloablist-Communists will establish their one-world government over all nations, and it will be a time of world peace, all wars having ended. (but it will be a fake peace though. It will only last for five months, so we will not have to hold out against false idol worship long.)

But what is happening today with the created divisions the Communists are creating in the U.S., the America people still have the right to defend themselves, their home, their property, and above all their nation. These riots are a just a political tool by the Communists in high places, that's all. And already American citizens have rose up to defense against the rioters, and the police are siding with those Americans as they should be, since they are on the side of law and order, not chaos. In my days, I saw the Vietnam era rioters in the U.S. and their North Vietnamese flag-flying Communist instigators at college rallies, Leftist speakers at those rallies like Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland. One would do well to take heed Skousen's 45 points and see where we are at involving those points today in the U.S.
 

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I don't know that I expect to bypass the tribulation, but I believe that I will not be here when God pours out His wrath on the whole earth. I'm curious about what you think this verse means.

Rev 3:10--Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

#1. Obey Rev. 18.
Rev. 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,
“Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;

#2. Obey Lke 22.
Lke 22:36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.
Note: If warm cloak/mantle is an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY, -- how much more important is the Sword that we should have to sell the cloak/mantle?!?
#3. Be PREPARED for Rev. 13.
Rev. 13:10 ... Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.

#4. Be PREPARED for Rev. 14.
Rev. 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

And having done all this, when you find yourself in the "courtyard", you won't be as vulnerable to denying Jesus, as Peter was, and will be "kept" safe from the Great Falling Away.


But if you do NONE of these, you'll be as susceptible as Peter. :)
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It was a conundrum until the rioting started a few months ago. I guess I really don't understand where all the hatred is coming from. There seems to be an entitlement mentality among the anarchists, like they are owed something, and they're going to destroy things until they get it. Maybe someone can explain this.

Certainly, -- in four words: WE'RE IN THE TRIBULATION.


Anything else? :)
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I don't know that I expect to bypass the tribulation, but I believe that I will not be here when God pours out His wrath on the whole earth. I'm curious about what you think this verse means.

Rev 3:10--Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

In Context:
Revelations Begins by notifying the reader, From Whose Authority and Through Whom, these Revelations are declared and revealed.
Rev 1:1

The First addressed are the Seven Churches.
Remember:
God taught ancient men, He IS God, Believe that, Trust what He says, Do What He says and AND His Offering is He will provide All things a man Needs Forever.
Remember:
Men Agreed: broadly Men Failed: God destroyed the Earth. Flood.
Again Men Agreed: broadly Men Failed: God put them in Bondage.
Again Men Agreed: broadly Men Failed: God ignored them for 400 years.
Remember:
God SENT His "Word" To Earth in the Likeness "as" a Man...To talk, Teach, Preach ... God to men...In their Ear..."and" Face to Face.
I believe this is Gods Last Offering - to "all" men, Accept /Reject...
This Offering is Unlike any previous Offering:
1) Face to Face
2) To All of mankind
3) The success (non-Failure) is By the Power of God.

The Seven Churches - simply called by the names of the cities where they were located and the people thereof...
They are an early model of worship places that were opening their Ears to the Gospel of Jesus' Teaching.
( I believe they are a forerunner to any Church Today. )
Meaning:
1) there Will BE Some attending that are faithfully Committed to the Lord God Almighty
2) Some will not.

A HIGHLIGHT: Notice John's instruction was To Write....TO THE ANGELS over each Church!
Each Angel was to be Told what God Approved and Disapproved in Each Church!

Rev 3:7 - Rev 3:13 was to the Church at Philadelphia.
(And all the notices to all the Churches that Commends them Are models to Follow)...

Rev 3:10 is a particular Highlight that reveals Verification from earlier teaching.

Rev 3:10-- Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

What is this Hour?
What is a man Kept From?
What is necessary to Keep a man From that Hour?

The Hour is when the Tribulation Begins.
(We were foretold it would Effect the Whole World and be like nothing mankind has ever experienced or will again).
* we were foretold...a man converted IN Christ is not subject to Wrath.
* we were foretold...Gods Anger for rejection by men...is His Wrath.
* we were foretold...God destroyed man Before with the Earth.
* we were foretold...ends of Days for man will be similar (but different and Greater) as in Noah's Day.
* we were foretold...Noah was Faithful; lifted UP above the Earth; Saved from destruction, and Gods Wrath.
* we were foretold a Converted man is NOT "OF" this World.

Who is ON this Earth When the Hour of Tribulation Begins?
(Hour is not the duration of Tribulation, it's the "unknown" Hour the Tribulation Begins )
IF a man IS Saved/Quickened (Born Again)...
What TEST does he Required?
He is already Converted.

Who IS Faithful TO God...but Rejects Jesus Christ? Gods People...ISRAEL...and today...all calling themselves JEWS.
( and NOT to pretend...everything applies to all Jews or All Gentile's. There ARE Messanic Jews who believe in and are committed to Christ the Lord Jesus).

Immediately after Rev speaks to the Chuches...Gods People ARE the Central Focus.
Jesus has "collected" / Lifted Up "His" People ..."His" Church.

God Sends...Witnesses, Preachers, Teachers, specifically TO: Israel...the Place, Jerusalem, TO ISRAEL, Gods People...144,000...12,000 from each Tribe of Israel....
WHY?
To Save them.
How are THEY being TESTED?
In addition to Gods Wrath...
God has Set a Timeframe in which Satan Shall have Power over Nations and people "OF" the world.
Their Testing, will be...Hear the Word of God...Trust it (full well knowing your Body Shall BE killed BY Satan, for Trusting God)...or Trust Satan...who Shall Promise World Peace and Safety.
Either way...the man Shall Bodily Die.
With Gods WAY...a man Shall Be MADE Living Forever With God.
With Satan's way...a man Shall Be MADE Condemned and Destroyed and Forgotten Forever.

Right after the Letters to the Seven Churches:
The Tribulation Begins with the OPENING of the Seven SEALS.
Who Opens Them? The Lamb.
What does Each Seal Reveal?
(Rev.- Power to conquer, kill, destroy, etc. the Anti-Christ, Beast, False Prophet, Death, Major disturbances upon the Earth, etc.)
And when these things come upon men "Great and small" "OF" the World...
What Do "they" recognize is happening?

Rev 6: tells us:
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of His Wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Why is the Lamb of God...exacting HIS wrath upon the World?
Remember:
There ARE many Who REJECT the Lamb of God, Him coming to Earth, as a man, Called the Word of God, called Jesus, "Offering" His Body for the Life of the world?
He is the First and the Last.
His Wrath is First when the Tribulation Begins.
Upon those WHO Rejected Him and Did Not
Relent and Accept Him when the Anti-Christ was Given power to rule the world and people "OF" the world.

Why would a man Converted IN Christ Jesus...who is Not OF this world...be subject to the Wrath of the Lamb?

Ponder...

Glory to God,
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Right; we Christians are not the people God directs His wrath to. Isaiah 66:15-17 makes that clear, but we are protected from it, not removed out of it.

[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
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So LORD is coming with Anger and fury and fire....?

I think you missed the message...

The LORDS people in numerous Scriptures IS the ISRAEL.

2 Cor 6:
[6] But I have chosen Jerusalem, that my name might be there; and have chosen David to be over my people Israel.

Christ Jesus' people are they which The Father has GIVEN HIM.

John 18:
[24] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Christ Jesus IS NOT on Earth when The SEALS are Broken and the Anti-Christ is Given Power to Rule the World.

And Where Christ Jesus IS...so Also IS those IN Christ.

1 Thes 4:
[17] ... caught up ... in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:

God Saved Noah...did Noah remain ON the Earth while the Earth was being Destroyed?
No.

What is your purpose to Be ON Earth while God is Seeking to Saved His People ISRAEL and Destroy All Who Reject God and His Christ?


Glory to God,
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The LORDS people in numerous Scriptures IS the ISRAEL.
The Israelites of God are those who accept Jesus and have overcome Satan.
Jewish Israelis reject Jesus and belong to the synagogue of Satan.

The former peoples will be protected and blessed, the latter, along with all the wicked, will be destroyed.
Your belief of the State of Israel still being the Israel of God, is totally contrary to scriptural truth. Galatians 3:26-29
 

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... Jewish Israelis reject Jesus and belong to the synagogue of Satan. ...

People will be held accountable for their FALSE "replacement theology" assertions.

Isaiah 59:1 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, ...

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Taken and Bobby Jo, I see you are both from America.
You both grip firmly onto the 'rapture to heaven' of the Church theory, as many Americans do. An idea that isn't actually prophesied in the Bible.
That theory has to have the Jews on earth, going thru the GT, while you sit in heaven. Many prophesies tell of their virtual demise in the Lord's Day of fiery wrath. Ezekiel 21:1-7, Amos 2:4-5, Romans 9:27.

A general Jewish redemption and a 'rapture' of the Christians, are just fables that will never happen. 2 Timothy 4:3-4
The sooner people realize their mistaken beliefs and find out what God actually does Plan for our future, the better you will be prepared for when things do happen as we are told they will.
 

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Taken and Bobby Jo, I see you are both from America.
You both grip firmly onto ... the Jews on earth, going thru the GT, while you sit in heaven. ...

Hey Keraz,

Don't mix me in with THAT nonsense. -- I already have ENOUGH trouble defending Scripture! :)

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Recently, I was reading through my journal, and I came across an entry that I wrote on August 4, 2019 (a year ago). This is what I wrote:

I see this nation as a boiling cauldron--bubbling up--like a pot that could boil over. The hatred is that strong and growing.
As I "saw" this and wrote it in my journal, I remember having NO idea what it meant, but I had been spending time in the Lord's presence, and He had been speaking to me about various things that day, so I knew it was from Him. Certain groups in America want to destroy this nation. The anarchists are seething with anger. I've seen it in their eyes in videos; I've heard it in their voices....

As Christians, we need to be careful not to fight hate with hate. We need to show the love of Jesus more than ever!!! I'm praying for revival!

There is no doubt that we are seeing a multi-faceted attack from Satan as people like the Democrats and Black Lives Matter make way for Satan to take over more and more of society. As the old saying goes, give him an inch and he takes a mile. And when he gets the bit between his teeth you can't control him.

People are blithely going about their business doing this that and the other without realizing they are serving satan. When I talk about Satan being behind homosexuality, they get so upset that I would suggest such a thing but that is exactly what is happening.

There is another saying "know your enemy" and if you don't in the case of Satan you are fighting a lost cause because he will always have one over you if you don't know how he works. Today his main modus operandi is to make the truth lies and lies the truth. Today, the most hated people on earth are those that tell the truth. Those that tell lies are the ones considered to be the victims.

Most organizations or movements that are against God are the ones built on lies i.e. homosexuality and abortion. What is more important than black lives matter is that babies lives matter because regardless of their colour, if they are dead, their colour is irrelevant. I notice that the Black Lives Matter movement is not very protective of black babies in the womb.
 
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