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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Prayer Warrior, Aug 12, 2020.

  1. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    I AGREE, so long as works follow along side prayer!

    Bobby Jo
     
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  2. 2 Chr. 34:19

    2 Chr. 34:19 Well-Known Member

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    Uk is too
     
  3. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Really? -- You mean that we have world wide chaos?

    That's not supposed to happen until we're in the Tribulation. So how can that be?!?
    Bobby Jo
     
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    Because we are NOT in the Great Tribulation. The things described for the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls remain unfulfilled.
    Great and terrible cosmic events are prophesied for that time, the 3 1/2 years before Jesus returns.
     
  5. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Did you think that the "BIRTH" lasted the full 42 months, -- or maybe that there were "birth pains" at the start and the "BIRTH" closer to the the end?

    Bobby Jo
     
  6. Keraz

    Keraz Well-Known Member

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    Labor Pangs of the New Age:
    Romans 8:19-23 The created universe is waiting with eager expectation for God’s sons to be revealed. It was His choice to subject all things to mortality and decay, with the eventual goal of His people entering into the glorious liberty of immortality and a renewed creation. Up to the present as we know, the whole of creation, in all its parts, groans as if in the pangs of childbirth. What is more, we also, to whom the Spirit is given as first-fruits of the harvest to come, are inwardly groaning in anticipation of our adoption as children of God and our liberation from mortality.

    Isaiah 42:13-15 The Lord has kept silence and restrained Himself for all this age, allowing this world to go its own way. But as the appointed time approaches, He is like a woman in labor, prepared and ready to take action. The Lord will go forth as a warrior, roused to a fury in the heat of battle. He will shout His battle cry and will triumph over His enemies. The land will be laid to waste, all the plants and trees will burn and the streams and lakes will become dry. Isaiah 63:4, Habakkuk 2:3, Jeremiah 4:23-28

    Matthew 24:3-8 Lord; tell us the signs of the end of this age. Jesus replied: Take care that no-one misleads you, for many false Messiahs and teachers will come and many will be fooled by them. The time is coming when you will hear of wars and rumors of wars, for there will be an increase of wars, earthquakes, diseases and famines. All these things are the birth pangs of the new age. Jeremiah 15:2


    As Jesus prophesied, there will be wars, earthquakes, diseases and famines at the end of this age. He likened these things to ‘birth pangs’. When we consider normal childbirth, the labor pangs are separated by periods of relative calm. So if there have been times when clusters of those four disasters have occurred, we can ascertain that time must be very short for this age. Here are the facts:

    1/ In 1914-19, World War 1 occurred. There were 7 earthquakes of over 8 magnitude. Smallpox and typhus killed millions, but Spanish flu killed at least 50 million in 1918/19. There were terrible famines in Europe and Russia.

    2/ During 1939-45 there was World War 2 and 8 earthquakes of over 8 magnitude. Typhus again killed millions, in North Africa, in Iran and Europe. Anne Frank died of typhus. A terrible famine in China killed at least 45 million.

    3/ The data suggests that the third ‘birth pang’, commenced in Nov. 11, 2001. Wars and rumors of wars are rife. It is considered that the global war on terrorism is a world war. There have been more than 20 earthquakes of 8 and two over 9 magnitude. Diseases such as cancer and AIDs are of epidemic proportions. Crop failures due to unusual weather and wars result in famines in Asia, Russia and Africa.
    But the next most shocking and devastating event of the third birth pang, will be the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. This will be the many prophesied ‘fire from heaven’ that describes a huge Coronal Mass Ejection sunstrike, will affect the whole world, killing probably billions. This will enable two things; the establishment of a One World Government and the re-settling of the Lord’s people into all of the holy Land. The time gap of the Seventh Seal, Revelation 8:1, [1/2 hour in Heaven = 20 years on earth] from this CME until the Great Tribulation is prophesied as a time of peace and prosperity. After the G.T. Jesus will Return for His Millennial reign.

    4/ The fourth and final ‘birth pang’, will be the Great Tribulation, so vividly described in Revelation, but ending with the Return of Jesus and the birth of the Millennial era.
     
  7. Bobby Jo

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    Your suppositions are strictly based upon a world perspective, exactly as Whisenant failed in his "88 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Be In 1988". He didn't use any Scriptural foundation, and neither are you. -- It's only in your heads, (I would have said "minds", but am not convinced either of you are using them).

    Bobby Jo
     
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    Are my 3 Bible quotes 'suppositions'?
    You are just one of the many who will be surprised and shocked when the Lord arises and changes this world. Isaiah 33:10-12
     
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    MOST of your Scripture quotes don't match the purported application. It happens all the time, -- someone has an agenda, they find a verse that meets their expectations, and BINGO, the verse FITS -- or so they assert.

    But the funny thing is, in a Fox News interview the U.S. Ambassador to Israel quoted Psalms 120 in regards to the UAE/Israel Peace Treaty. And where I'd been asserting the J.R. Church "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise, here the Ambassador unknowingly cited a PROPHETIC CHAPTER for a PROPHETIC YEAR exactly as the J.R. Church concept depicts:

    Psalms 120:7 I am for peace;
    but when I speak,
    they are for war!

    I was speechless, and am still dumbfounded. -- How can a U.S. Ambassador unknowingly cite a Prophetic Chapter for a Prophetic Year unless the Hand of GOD is intervening?!?
    Bobby Jo
     
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    All three quotes in #106 refer to the labor pangs of the new age.
    That they don't suit your beliefs, is the fault of your agenda.
     
  11. Bobby Jo

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    This from the guy who has the CME and Replacement Theology agendas.


    Must be lots of forests in New Zealand.
    Bobby Jo

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    Yes, America is boiling over. America is dying. World Government is coming. Nothing can stop it.

    Revelation 13:7 (NKJV)
    7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
     
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    However, God will intervene and he won't let the one world government last for long.
    The kingdom of this world will become the kingdom of our Lord Christ.

    Maranatha and Shalom!
     
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    kcnalp Well-Known Member

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    I agree, but God is going to clean up His Church! MANY will die!

    Revelation 13:7 (NKJV)
    7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
     
  15. Prayer Warrior

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    I like this quote from Lewis, but prayer does both!
     
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    historyb Well-Known Member

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    It can't change God or else Scripture lies. God is the same today, yesterday, and forever. God never changes. :)

    PS Love your avatar, I had a cockatoo when I was a young guy
     
  17. kcnalp

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    I love cockatoo's but they are SOOO loud! lol
     
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    I wasn’t saying that our prayers change who God is, of course! Like I said before, our prayers can move the hand of God and change the course of events.
     
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  19. teamventure

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    Well, yes many tribulation saints will die by the ruling of antichrist, but Gods cleaning up as you put it will be in judgement of the world and beast kingdom
     
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    Well, if God decides to move his hand yes, but not at mans will.
     
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