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I wouldn't follow him, or any other prophet. He did have some interesting prophecies and was more often right than wrong. A vast majority of things though are unverifiable.
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I wouldn't follow him, or any other prophet. He did have some interesting prophecies and was more often right than wrong. A vast majority of things though are unverifiable.
amigo de christo
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Here is what i reckon .
FOR MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many . JESUS said that about the end days .
And i must say , its a tough find , to find a true prophet in the land of mainsteam media and churches today .
So tough , i have not found one with Tbn , or those mainstream nar churches , emgergents , prosperity and etc
But then i know why i have not found one among those . cause the liberal church is tanked and those churches are
not truth tellers , or aka the false are all over them and lead them . Its not looking good my friend .
And would you like to know where these leaders are also leading them , Right to the mother harlot . I SEE a BIG DELUSION
gaining ground under an all inclusive unity sensual we are one go spell . ITS looking grim for so many .
OH , but i do want to leave us with some wonderful good news .
But the lambs , DO NOT HEED THEM . THEY flee the voice of strangers and FOLLOW ONLY THE BLESSED LAMB , THE GREAT SHEPARD
of the sheep . THE anchor of their heart and soul , KING JESUS THE BLESSED LORD . Forward march , FOLLOWING ONLY HIS VOICE .
Seven of Nine
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It's truly ironic to hear Trump's Christian supporters insist that God ordains our leaders because many of these same Christians called for civil disobedience in defiance against Obama's presidency and leadership. It was also publicly declared "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership" (Ps. 109:8) and to make sure Obama was a one-term President. There wasn't an outcry from these Christians to submit to the government or a collective declaration about God ordaining the President when Obama was in office for eight years. It was the opposite.
A Republican senator just prayed that Obama’s “days be few.” This is how the GOP got Trump.
Bobby Jo
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Exactly how much you want to throw out? -- All 10 verses?
Rev. 11:3 And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if any one would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes; if any one would harm them, thus he is doomed to be killed. 6 They have power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire. 7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them, 8 and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. 9 For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, 10 and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. 11 But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up hither!” And in the sight of their foes they went up to heaven in a cloud.
4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if any one would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes; if any one would harm them, thus he is doomed to be killed. 6 They have power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire. 7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them, 8 and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. 9 For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, 10 and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. 11 But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up hither!” And in the sight of their foes they went up to heaven in a cloud.
It might be risky to disregard Scripture.
Rev. 22:18 I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
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They just moved on with their lives, waiting to hear about the next excuse to circumvent their liberties. Which is more than can be said about democrats who still havn't gotten over the 2016 election.
amigo de christo
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OH dear my friend . MIKE PENCE and TRUMP are NOT those two lampstands , two witnesses .Exactly how much you want to throw out? -- All 10 verses?
Rev. 11:3 And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if any one would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes; if any one would harm them, thus he is doomed to be killed. 6 They have power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire. 7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them, 8 and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. 9 For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, 10 and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. 11 But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up hither!” And in the sight of their foes they went up to heaven in a cloud.
It might be risky to disregard Scripture.
Rev. 22:18 I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Bobby Jo
amigo de christo
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Those men are holy , righteous and true . And if we take notice
they get killed where , IN what city , the city where our LORD was crucified . That is over in jersualem , aka Israel .
Those two annionted ones , they preach also a message of repentace , cause they are dressed in sackclothe and ash .
NOT seeing that message from either of those two . And for sure not from the left .
At most they have some decent qualities that might help the babies . But they are not those two witnesses . NOT even close .
they get killed where , IN what city , the city where our LORD was crucified . That is over in jersualem , aka Israel .
Those two annionted ones , they preach also a message of repentace , cause they are dressed in sackclothe and ash .
NOT seeing that message from either of those two . And for sure not from the left .
At most they have some decent qualities that might help the babies . But they are not those two witnesses . NOT even close .
Bobby Jo
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You DON'T KNOW what you DON'T KNOW. So maybe you could DISCOVER???
Or maybe stick with what you DO KNOW!
Bobby Jo
amigo de christo
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Anyone wanna help with this . Also the two witnesses call down plagues upon the earth and judgments .
They are not mike pence and trump . If anyone else wants to help our dear friend bobby , now is the time .
They are not mike pence and trump . If anyone else wants to help our dear friend bobby , now is the time .
amigo de christo
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I have zero , zero problem with you voting for trump . But i beg you to abandon that concept . Mike pence and trumpYou DON'T KNOW what you DON'T KNOW. So maybe you could DISCOVER???
Or maybe stick with what you DO KNOW!
Bobby Jo
are not the two witnesses that are spoken of in revelation .
amigo de christo
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Does anyone wanna help me with our friend bobby . cause i am very certain that mike pence and trump are NOT the TWO witnesses
spoken of in revelation .
Bobby Jo
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Let's see, -- a couple of strikes against Syria, including some 59 cruise missiles; Iranian General Qasem Soleimani; and on and on.
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I doubt it too, but it is even more unlikely that I would be able to convince Bobby
Ronald Nolette
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Well we will know shortly after Nov. 3 if this was a prophet of God or false prophets.
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I was born in the 1950's, and it would appear many here are of later generations that aren't familiar with the threat of world communism, and who really is behind it supporting it in the West, and who in the West has been working with it.
Leon Trotsky left New York city with $10,000 dollars on his way to Russia to help foment the 1917 Russian revolution, beginning the communist's reign there with Lenin. He was stopped by police in Nova Scotia, which is how the funds he was carrying became public knowledge. He had no job in New York, was basically penniless. Someone in New York funded him though. And $10,000 US in that time was worth a whole lot of money. Communism is actually a child of wealthy western socialists. It is merely a tool towards one world government. Franklin D. Roosevelt as U.S. President implemented many of Karl Marx's socialist goals. Lenin said socialism is... communism.
In Georgtown history professor Carrol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope, he revealed the British Round Table group established a socialist structure in Britain following the ideas of the British socialist Cecil B. Rhodes. That is where the Rhodes scholarship trust originated. Quigley revealed history of this Rhodes trust by the Round Table group, and how they also instituted an American version of the Round Table in the United States called the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR). They also created a Pacific version called the Royal Institute of Pacific Affairs, which fell into bad repute because of its Communist affiliations. (The printers of Quigley's book destroyed the printing plates back in the 1960's, which Quigley had to sue to find out why they quit publishing it. But you can still find copies. Quigley said his book must have said something the "establishment" didn't want known). Why is this important to know?...
Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar, and he praised professor Quigley in his inaugural speech. Quigley himself was allied with the 'insiders', and admitted he had been allowed to preview their 'secret records' for two years. He said he had no problem with the movement, but disagreed with it wanting to remain secret. In case you haven't recognized it yet, their policies are vehemently against the Constitution of The United States of America! Their influence through the Rhodes scholarship program is to train political leaders towards passing legislation towards a one world government. This is why ex-Presidents like Bill Clinton, who was a Rhodes scholar that went to Oxford University in England, did so many things while President to destroy the national sovereignty of the United States.
One of the things Quigley stated in his book was that the "establishment" often works with Communism, and has no problem doing so.
Both the power elites, what Quigley called the western New England "establishment", and the British socialists, want a "one world government". World Communism also wants a "one world government". That is why they all work together towards that goal. If you don't realize this then you are way, way behind the times, because their working has been going on long before I was born. It's been in the works for centuries even, as communist philosophy sprang from ancient occult philosophy. The system goes all the way from the leadership of the secret societies of occultism directly to Satan's elect. Afterall, Satan wants to be God, and over all nations, and worshiped in place of God.
President Trump is against that movement. He even hinted at it and some of their associations with debates against Bush for the 2016 election. He is very aware of that movement, and THAT IS WHY they hate him so much! Trump knows exactly what the U.S. needs to re-establish what the "insiders" have taken away from the citizens of the United States of America, and make America great again. This is no bull.
Our Heavenly Father Himself through Trump today, is revealing openly His enemies working secretly in the shadows against His people in America. This is why we can now recognize all the media outlets that side with the Leftist Communists, and even their mayors and governors, and Communist leaning senators and congressmen. The "establishment" through the CFR, which in the 1990's is the last time I saw a list of its members, something like 3,000, was like a who's-who list made up of media moguls, moguls in education, military, finance, and yes of course, senators and congress, and even some U.S. presidents! The CFR claims they don't make U.S. policy, but anyone with enough common sense can read their magazine publication Foreign Affairs and see how their ideas intend to influence policy. And they are NOT elected by the people! They represent a 'shadow' government of power elites in the U.S.
Leon Trotsky left New York city with $10,000 dollars on his way to Russia to help foment the 1917 Russian revolution, beginning the communist's reign there with Lenin. He was stopped by police in Nova Scotia, which is how the funds he was carrying became public knowledge. He had no job in New York, was basically penniless. Someone in New York funded him though. And $10,000 US in that time was worth a whole lot of money. Communism is actually a child of wealthy western socialists. It is merely a tool towards one world government. Franklin D. Roosevelt as U.S. President implemented many of Karl Marx's socialist goals. Lenin said socialism is... communism.
In Georgtown history professor Carrol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope, he revealed the British Round Table group established a socialist structure in Britain following the ideas of the British socialist Cecil B. Rhodes. That is where the Rhodes scholarship trust originated. Quigley revealed history of this Rhodes trust by the Round Table group, and how they also instituted an American version of the Round Table in the United States called the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR). They also created a Pacific version called the Royal Institute of Pacific Affairs, which fell into bad repute because of its Communist affiliations. (The printers of Quigley's book destroyed the printing plates back in the 1960's, which Quigley had to sue to find out why they quit publishing it. But you can still find copies. Quigley said his book must have said something the "establishment" didn't want known). Why is this important to know?...
Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar, and he praised professor Quigley in his inaugural speech. Quigley himself was allied with the 'insiders', and admitted he had been allowed to preview their 'secret records' for two years. He said he had no problem with the movement, but disagreed with it wanting to remain secret. In case you haven't recognized it yet, their policies are vehemently against the Constitution of The United States of America! Their influence through the Rhodes scholarship program is to train political leaders towards passing legislation towards a one world government. This is why ex-Presidents like Bill Clinton, who was a Rhodes scholar that went to Oxford University in England, did so many things while President to destroy the national sovereignty of the United States.
One of the things Quigley stated in his book was that the "establishment" often works with Communism, and has no problem doing so.
Both the power elites, what Quigley called the western New England "establishment", and the British socialists, want a "one world government". World Communism also wants a "one world government". That is why they all work together towards that goal. If you don't realize this then you are way, way behind the times, because their working has been going on long before I was born. It's been in the works for centuries even, as communist philosophy sprang from ancient occult philosophy. The system goes all the way from the leadership of the secret societies of occultism directly to Satan's elect. Afterall, Satan wants to be God, and over all nations, and worshiped in place of God.
President Trump is against that movement. He even hinted at it and some of their associations with debates against Bush for the 2016 election. He is very aware of that movement, and THAT IS WHY they hate him so much! Trump knows exactly what the U.S. needs to re-establish what the "insiders" have taken away from the citizens of the United States of America, and make America great again. This is no bull.
Our Heavenly Father Himself through Trump today, is revealing openly His enemies working secretly in the shadows against His people in America. This is why we can now recognize all the media outlets that side with the Leftist Communists, and even their mayors and governors, and Communist leaning senators and congressmen. The "establishment" through the CFR, which in the 1990's is the last time I saw a list of its members, something like 3,000, was like a who's-who list made up of media moguls, moguls in education, military, finance, and yes of course, senators and congress, and even some U.S. presidents! The CFR claims they don't make U.S. policy, but anyone with enough common sense can read their magazine publication Foreign Affairs and see how their ideas intend to influence policy. And they are NOT elected by the people! They represent a 'shadow' government of power elites in the U.S.
Trump stands between the dark powers of this world and what they want. Which is to weaken America to the point where it can be overthrown. From there, their global plans would quickly move forward.
They would then be able to cull the human population, have a never-ending supply of fresh, matching donor organs, take all the babies they wanted for sacrifices, use children for sex and adrenochrome, kill all the allies of God, and live in the lap of luxury as long as they live. And they could openly worship their devils, which would also be able to come out of hiding since there would be no Spirit-filled people of God to contend with.
The powers behind this know that God is in control. They know their end, and being full of furious rage and hatred, they seek to destroy everything that our Loving Father has graciously created for us, including us. Their end is certain.
Welcome to Christianity Board, Rapture and End Times. Shalom.
amigo de christo
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Not really . some of those same prophets so called , also prophesied a mitt romney win . Just cause they get it right
dont make them true . Anyone can guess or have a feeling and be right .
Just always remember that as well my friend .
Bobby Jo
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NO! Quite the CONTRARY. -- I'm FULLY CONVINCED that you doubt Trump & Pence are the Two Witnesses. And I also expect that @amigo de christo AGREES with you!
But I'd argue that Scripture and History AGREES with me!
And to make the point, I'm MORE THAN WILLING to substantiate ANYTHING I assert, -- given that there are TRUTHS, and also EXPECTATIONS. And where Trump & Pence are EXPECTATIONS, they have a Scriptural Foundation which appears to support their candidacy. Now I also argue that there are NONE in this Forum which are as well equipped to assess and defend this position; just as I am not as well equipped to assess and defend their expertise in whatever aspects that GOD has called them to.
And so we have EACH MEMBER of the BODY to COMPLETE each of us! But what good is the BODY when we say: I have no need of thee ?!?
Bobby Jo
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MOST people don't understand Bible Prophecy, -- SO THEY IGNORE IT. But it would seem to me that if GOD made it available for us, then it's PROBABLY for our GOOD. And if for our GOOD, then we should ADD IT to our inventory of Christian tools.
However, if we IGNORE it, then we do so at our own peril.
Bobby Jo
Hmmm, it's rare to find a prophet 100% accurate these days... Or even 90% or 80% accurate.
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