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There never was a pandemic. The virus is real, yes. However, MANY positive tests were because the tests were too sensitive and were catching amounts of the virus that were not transmissionable and would otherwise have not been counted for any other disease.

The "Pandemic" is totally A political stunt, given to Obvious reports of HOW "they" have kept it "going" for months and months.
Oh oh, the "sky rocketing numbers"...
Seriously, the elation twinkling in their eyes, on how quickly, they can Get the World to Yield to their "FEAR" control. Astounding.
People Imprisoning themselves, rearranging their furniture in their homes, tattling on neighbors, restaurants requiring masks <--- LOL.

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Anti-mask are obviously upset...ROFL.

Any fabricated reason they can dream up...just like in the 1918 pandemic.
Except now it's (generally speaking) conservatives that don't want to mask instead of liberals. The sides have swapped positions.
 

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Anti-mask are obviously upset...ROFL.

Any fabricated reason they can dream up...just like in the 1918 pandemic.
Except now it's (generally speaking) conservatives that don't want to mask instead of liberals. The sides have swapped positions.

Upset?
No, so your ROFL, is ado about nothing.
Simply not moved by the "Fear" tactics.
If you choose to wear a mask, that is as well, your choice.
Should we find that upsetting to you and think that so funny?
Should we expound on your reasons for wearing a mask is fabricated?
 

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There never was a pandemic. The virus is real, yes. However, MANY positive tests were because the tests were too sensitive and were catching amounts of the virus that were not transmissionable and would otherwise have not been counted for any other disease.

Not to lay it heavy on you mate.....nothing personal here for you..

Like the parts where you said this is not a pandemic and where you said the tests are sensitive ...however, I think this virus is not real let alone parts of it are non-transmittable..I just have not received from true experts and true science the proof of its existence.

I do see other virus' and germs being substituted for and blamed on this so-called virus
I do see other medical conditions and natural pneumonia conditions being substituted and blamed on this so-called virus
I do see anecdotal data by observation only - symptoms that are not so unique to influenza and cold etc
I do see the PCR tests matching current DNA materials in a body from other virus' or colds (been there for many month if not years) and then labeling it as exclusively COVID-19
I see the experts say that one can have no symptoms for 14 days and now then are saying 24 days...no known virus to data can 'hide' or be dormant this long...this then is a first.

There are too many inconsistencies with this so-called virus...and then there's much data to show this virus does not exist in many crowded non-masked events.......it does not add up to me...

Now in part because it is very hard to know if this virus really existed most, without question, believe what these politically motivated so-called medical experts say.

They say as commands...1. the virus is real. 2. wear a mask....3. 6ft/2m distance please.....4. close businesses/schools/sports/cruises... 5. lockdown now..lockdown again...6..take your vaccines..at least 2 doses are awaiting you.....and there is still no proof that this virus really exists.. Man if I'm right, what a super global type false flag 9/11 they pulled off...talk about mind control...en masse..

I see no proof of this COVID-19 being/been purified..isolated and sequenced....so I wonder what type of mRNA/DNA vaccine they are creating..?? THat is the nect BIG question.

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Still waiting on that "proof" John...
I'm not going to bother...it's there if you want to look at it. Why should I argue with you... because the second I provide "proof" you would immediately discount and try to discredit whatever proof I provided.

But it's there and there's a REASON the various governments of the whole world are mandating and promoting masks. (Hint: masks work)

And for whatever reason you can't be wrong...ever. Nevermind that admitting that you were wrong in order to become a Christian...and it's Christianity's best trait....you somehow say that you are not wrong in your mask assessment and could never be.
And on top of all this. I don't like arguing.
 

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I'm not going to bother...it's there if you want to look at it. Why should I argue with you... because the second I provide "proof" you would immediately discount and try to discredit whatever proof I provided.

Why should he ASK for proof, because the second he asks you will make up some excuse because YOU have no proof.
 
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There is zero science that masks work. The virus is smaller than what these masks can filter out.
Correct. If masks were to be taken seriously only N95 masks would be permitted. And these are in short supply and reserved for medical personnel. So the whole masking business in one big joke. Most people do not understand some basics about viruses:

1. Viruses are not the same as bacteria, and they are EXTREMELY SMALL.

2. COVID and flu viruses are about 100 nanometers, and a nanometer is ONE-BILLIONTH of a meter. So these are sub-microscopic particles, which cannot be seen by ordinary microscopes and require electron microscopes. The average mask does not protect against such tiny particles.

3. A virus needs a living host in order to survive and multiply. If a virus sits on an inert surface, it will simply die out (unlike bacteria). So for all practical purposes, people simply need to distance themselves from those who are actually sick.

4. Generally, herd immunity is sufficient to provide the necessary antibodies and protection. 80- 90% of those testing positive are in no danger. At the same time it is only the very elderly who are at the greatest risk, and they are already at risk from other diseases.

In view of this masks are in fact MUZZLES, so that the governments can make people shut up and go along with State Control -- TOTALITARIANISM. Unfortunately only a small minority is resisting this kind of governmental control. Hitler made the Jews wear tattoos to control them. Western governments have not gone all the way to the Mark of the Beast. But it is coming.
 
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You obviously care more about the fight than the truth.
Several studies have been done recently and proved beyond any doubt that wearing masks works when worn appropriately.

Mostly by preventing sick people infecting you.
80,000 Americans died from the flu two years ago. Where were the masks then? It's political!
 
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Anti-mask are obviously upset...ROFL.

Any fabricated reason they can dream up...just like in the 1918 pandemic.
Except now it's (generally speaking) conservatives that don't want to mask instead of liberals. The sides have swapped positions.
Look at the science and history. Masks were ineffective in 1918.

But back in 1918, public health leaders who studied the problem thought that the mask laws and mask use by the public were minimally effective.

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Kellogg, Wilfred H. Influenza, A Study of Measures Adopted for the Control of the Epidemic. California State Board of Health. (Sacramento: California State Printing Office, 1919) 22.
This is from a study published in 1919 by the California State Department of Health. The above graph showed very little difference in death rates between Stockton, which mandated the wearing of masks in public, and Boston, which did not. So, early on, authorities were skeptical of the effectiveness of masks, but they also felt that masks were not used properly.

In the video I posted on the "casedemic," the Doctor does raise the question... did we do more harm than good with shutdowns and over-sanitizing and masks? With most viruses, they decline in the summer, and during that time we usually get exposed to dead viruses, and small amounts of live viruses, and start to create herd immunity. Will those Nations that locked down do worse than Sweden who never employed draconian measures? Will a rebound in the fall (which is normal after a flu outbreak in the winter and spring prior,) cause us to be even more vulnerable, and extend the lethality from an otherwise largely diminished effect on society? Will all of our efforts actually create more deaths than if we did what we normally do during cold and flu season? Only time will tell.
 
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The Mask Slackers of 1918

There have been those who refused to wear masks even during a flu epidemic...

Now it's conservatives who don't want to wear the masks and liberals who do...

Politics are funny...

The truth isn't relevant only the fighting is.

Lol. New generation. and no one wamts to wesr a mask. Haha
 

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Lol. New generation. and no one wamts to wesr a mask. Haha
Conservatives resist mask wearing for several reasons:

1). The science is not there. Conservatives are not the "Science deniers..." Liberals are.
2). The whole issue of COVID-19 has been used for political power. Most of us believe in the Constitution, freedom and Liberty, and refuse to go along and be duped by a Socialist power grab.

The issue of COVID-19 has cause over-reaction, and in turn, will naturally be met with an equal reaction the other direction.

Most are somewhere in the middle:

1). COVID-19 exists. It is deadly to older people and those with existing pre-conditions. Yet, so is the seasonal flu.
2). No one really understands or knows how this is spreading. Is it by contact, in the air, or merely by the spray of large droplets? Since it appeared in China in November of last year, "science" and "Doctors" have been all over the place. At first WHO said is was not airborne, and that it was not highly transmittable. First, in America, we were told that it was unpatriotic to wear a Mask, and that Masks do not work. Then we were told that you needed a Ph.D. and Special Training in order to wear a Mask correctly. Then magically, Masks were encouraged, then in many areas, made mandatory. The fact is, in every previous study on Masks and viruses, the conclusion has always been that Masks do not work.
3). All of the measures, travel bans, quarantines, shutdowns, Masks, sanitizing everything are "best guesses" to try to keep the Public safe, and minimize and control the spread of the disease. When we look back with 20/20 hindsight, we can evaluate what worked, and what to do when the next weaponized bug escapes from China.
4). The Pandemic is over, and now with massive testing, we see high numbers but much lower deaths. The virus is still dangerous! Yet, our bodies are adapting as they always do. Those that are high risk should continue to employ defensive measures. Otherwise, shutdowns are unnecessary, and should be lifted. If one is in decent health and under 60, the morbidity is less than the regular strains of flu, which take young and old alike every year.
5). I can concede that Masks (N95 or 95+) can reduce the range in which snot and spit are projected, yet since the virus is much smaller than the filter, it is inevitable that the virus still goes into the air, mask or not. This would mean that those that are infected will not spray as badly. Mask efficiency to stop the spread? It is not high. Yet, I agree that it has "some" effect, and am not against Mask wearing for the sick. For those on the receiving end, the filter does nothing to stop an airborne virus. Yet it does cover a portion of the face and prevents direct splatter on the covered area, which may give a minimal amount of protection (since the eyes are exposed, one is still vulnerable to spray.) Basically, Mask wearing is a panacea and not a proven science. It is false assurance. Science is weighted strongly on the other side of this equation. Around the vulnerable, it is the better part of wisdom for all involved to wear a mask. For 90% of the population, it has devolved into a power grab and political control, and is no longer necessary. Businesses should not be shut down.
6). By over sanitizing, isolating, and other draconian measures, it is probable that we have not allowed a normal adaptation and herd immunity to take place. We may, in our best intended efforts, done more harm than good by not returning to normal after the actual Pandemic ended.
 

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The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said this week it erroneously published new guidance acknowledging that the coronavirus spreads through tiny particles that can linger in the air and travel beyond six feet.

CDC officials have been saying for months that the virus primarily spreads between people in close contact (within about 6 feet) via large droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks that end up in the mouths or noses of people nearby.

Those recommendations prompted social distancing (six feet apart) and mask-related rules.

Nevertheless, on Friday, the agency reportedly added that tiny particles (aerosols) can travel beyond six feet could spread the virus.

Come Monday, the CDC abruptly dropped its new guidance and reverted to its position that the people mainly transmit the disease to others nearby through large droplets.

The edited CDC webpage now says:

A draft version of proposed changes to these recommendations was posted in error to the agency’s official website. CDC is currently updating its recommendations regarding airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). Once this process has been completed, the update language will be posted.

On Monday, the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) revealed that it had reached out to the CDC about its update.

Dr. Mike Ryan, the executive director of the W.H.O’s health emergency program, told reporters that the United Nations organization had not seen any “new evidence” on the transmission of the virus through airborne particles.

The W.H.O contacted the CDC to “better understand” why it made the change, Ryan proclaimed.

According to the W.H.O, the virus can spread through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or breathes.

The international health body has said it monitors “emerging evidence” on the potential of airborne transmission.

W.H.O’s stance “on this remains the same,” Ryan told reporters, adding:

We’ve always said going back over months and months about the potential for different kinds of roots of transmission and particularly driven by the context, the proximity, the intensity, the duration and the potential for different forms of transmission.
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So then we don't need masks right? If this virus was a actually real it would linger in the air and most possibly beyond 6 feet. Now they said this one does not...

So what is going on with this CDC retraction?

Yet folks will still wear these muzzles..without question....wake up it is a fraud and a lie being perpetrated here
 
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It's a feel-good thing. It makes people feel like they're doing something about the virus.
I've worn one but don't most of the time now. At our local stores, you find some wear them, some don't. Nobody gets kicked out for not wearing them...I do give people lots of personal space.
 
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I'm going to wear a mask because I care more about others...

And many (if not most) anti mask people have been shown statistically to be super-spreaders of the virus.

I wonder if I can get a "stand your ground" defense for using a weapon in such scenarios.
 

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I'm going to wear a mask because I care more about others...

And many (if not most) anti mask people have been shown statistically to be super-spreaders of the virus.

I wonder if I can get a "stand your ground" defense for using a weapon in such scenarios.
That's a little extreme, don't you think?
Even if someone accidentally give you the virus, you have less than a 1 percent chance of dying from it.
 
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JohnDB

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That's a little extreme, don't you think?
Even if someone accidentally give you the virus, you have less than a 1 percent chance of dying from it.
Well if it's non-lethal like a baseball bat or stun baton something else like that... very unpleasant and potentially life altering when assaulted with it. It's not an unequal thing.

I'm just curious what the courts would think...
 

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I'm going to wear a mask because I care more about others...

And many (if not most) anti mask people have been shown statistically to be super-spreaders of the virus.

I wonder if I can get a "stand your ground" defense for using a weapon in such scenarios.
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