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Lifelong_sinner

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making fun of apostles, fathers & doctors of the church and saints is making fun of Christ

Personifies saul:

A fundamentalist going by spiritual pride, self-righteous private judgement from scripture, or the humility to hear the teaching of Christ through the church of His apostles?
Obedience of faith: rom 16:26
We must be taught by Christ who is the way, the truth, and the life. Jn 14:6
Instructed: Lk 1:4 acts 8:31
Teach all nations: Matt 28:19
He who hears you (the apostles) hears me: lk 10:16
Hear the church: Matt 18:17
Church is the pillar and ground of truth: 1 Tim 3:14
Christ and his church are one, the church is an extension of Christ through the whole world and all time: acts 9:4

Not scripture plus private judgement

But guided by the teaching office of Christ and his church!

Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)

Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.

you catholics are just plain crazy.
 

Ferris Bueller

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making fun of apostles, fathers & doctors of the church and saints is making fun of Christ

Personifies saul:

A fundamentalist going by spiritual pride, self-righteous private judgement from scripture, or the humility to hear the teaching of Christ through the church of His apostles?
Obedience of faith: rom 16:26
We must be taught by Christ who is the way, the truth, and the life. Jn 14:6
Instructed: Lk 1:4 acts 8:31
Teach all nations: Matt 28:19
He who hears you (the apostles) hears me: lk 10:16
Hear the church: Matt 18:17
Church is the pillar and ground of truth: 1 Tim 3:14
Christ and his church are one, the church is an extension of Christ through the whole world and all time: acts 9:4

Not scripture plus private judgement

But guided by the teaching office of Christ and his church!

Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)

Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.
This does not scare us.
This may scare you into never leaving the Catholic religion, or challenging it. But it does not scare us at all.
 
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theefaith

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where does it say not to ?

by what authority?
Only Christ has authority to found church

truth revealed by God and proposed by the church is immutable, without reformation
 

theefaith

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"...you have tested and exposed as liars those who falsely claim to be apostles." Revelation 2:2


“We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that saves is never alone.”

― Martin Luther

That’s Mental illness!
 

theefaith

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This kind of talk might scare you. But it does not scare us. We know better.
You just have to understand that the instant someone says you're not saved unless you're a part of my church we stop listening.


Saul saul:

A fundamentalist going by spiritual pride, self-righteous private judgement from scripture, or the humility to hear the teaching of Christ through the church of His apostles?
Obedience of faith: rom 16:26
We must be taught by Christ who is the way, the truth, and the life. Jn 14:6
Instructed: Lk 1:4 acts 8:31
Teach all nations: Matt 28:19
He who hears you (the apostles) hears me: lk 10:16
Hear the church: Matt 18:17
Church is the pillar and ground of truth: 1 Tim 3:14
Christ and his church are one, the church is an extension of Christ through the whole world and all time: acts 9:4

Not scripture plus private judgement

But guided by the teaching office of Christ and his church!

Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)

Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.
 

theefaith

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This does not scare us.
This may scare you into never leaving the Catholic religion, or challenging it. But it does not scare us at all.

The great fundamentalist lie!
Masquerading as truth!


The Great rebellion against Christ and His holy church and apostles!

Reject all of sacred and apostolic Tradition who have the authority of Christ! (The holy apostles)

But accept, obey and submit to the tradition of men like those who translated the KJV Bible (and rejected many books and chapters) and the excommunicated heretic luther who invented the five heretical Solas!

Saul
The Jew
Pride
Hatred for Christ and Christians
Heretic
Fundamentalist

Paul
Humble
Saint
Faithful Christian
Love of Christ and Christians

Saul thought he was doing the will of God and acting righteously

Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

Then the risen Christ appeared!
The blinding light of truth prevailed!

Fundamentalism is faith without reason!

So be it with all those who sit in the error of rigorous puritanical fundamentalism!

Including Protestants!

Pure spiritual blindness, thick black scales!

Spiritual anarchy and chaos!

God establishes “peace and order” thru obedience to hierarchical jurisdictional authority!

Peter matt 16:18
The apostles Matt 18:18
Jn 29:21-23 eph 2:20 eph 5:24 eph 5:32
Jn 15:1-5
Apostolic succession acts 1:26
 

Ferris Bueller

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“We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that saves is never alone.”

― Martin Luther

That’s Mental illness!
Well, the opposite of that would be "We are saved by faith alone and is always alone."

So take your pick.
Which one is it?
 

Ferris Bueller

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Saul saul:

A fundamentalist going by spiritual pride, self-righteous private judgement from scripture, or the humility to hear the teaching of Christ through the church of His apostles?
Obedience of faith: rom 16:26
We must be taught by Christ who is the way, the truth, and the life. Jn 14:6
Instructed: Lk 1:4 acts 8:31
Teach all nations: Matt 28:19
He who hears you (the apostles) hears me: lk 10:16
Hear the church: Matt 18:17
Church is the pillar and ground of truth: 1 Tim 3:14
Christ and his church are one, the church is an extension of Christ through the whole world and all time: acts 9:4

Not scripture plus private judgement

But guided by the teaching office of Christ and his church!

Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)

Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.
We're not afraid of your threats. We're just not.
You're not allowed to check to see if your overlords are right, let alone challenge them.
That's a cult.
You're in a cult.
 
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Ferris Bueller

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God establishes “peace and order” thru obedience to hierarchical jurisdictional authority!
Yes, TRUE hierarchical authority, not the fake authority of the Catholic church.
In the spirit of Revelation 2:2 we have found your so-called apostles to be fakes. We do not fear your threats.
 

Ezra

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by what authority?
Only Christ has authority to found church

truth revealed by God and proposed by the church is immutable, without reformation
YOUR POSTING LEFT FIELD theology actually doctrine of man. have you ever read of the great revivals ? just one the great welsh revival . the authority is the Word of God .
 

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reformed1689 said:
Yup! I've been on here a while but I get disgusted with the heresy here so I have long bouts where I am not on.
carm forum might be better for you.
 

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you could try to find the common ground


Then Paul stood up at the Areopagus and said: "You Athenians, I see that in every respect you are very religious.

For as I walked around looking carefully at your shrines, I even discovered an altar inscribed, 'To an Unknown God.' What therefore you unknowingly worship, I proclaim to you.


Pax et Bonum!
 
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'I've not come to save the righteous but sinners'...Jesus. I s'pose the righteous don't need reformation....they've always been right.
oddly, or perhaps not so oddly, we are all tainted with the sinner badge which ultimately means, none is righteous, no not one......therefore, any claim to being righteous by virtue of being a son/daughter of Adam is spurious.

The religious mindset is lost in the delusion of 'sinlessness' ....all the while whipping themselves and others for failure.....and there are lots of convoluted ways of bolstering that delusion.
Jesus, addressing the religious elite in his statement, 'I've not come to save the righteous but sinners' was intended as food for thought.
 
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Lifelong_sinner

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Hello reformed,

I'm curious..

What qualifies you to judge what is heresy?

Pax et Bonum!

i own a Bible. If what you say, isnt in the Bible, since all scripture is worthy to teach by, then you get called out. And you catholics have a LOT to get called out on. Just ask martin luther.