I won’t be slapping anyone in the face, no matter what they believe about Jesus.
Are you here to convert people?
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I won’t be slapping anyone in the face, no matter what they believe about Jesus.
GEN2REV
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GEN2REV
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I think he meant internet discussion forum slap.
Maybe not.
P.S. you don't believe Jesus is God so it won't likely offend you as much.
RLT63
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I guess those genealogies in the gospels were just to take up space
The Protestant theologians I mentioned in my post published a de-Judaized New Testament. The genealogies are omitted in it.
RLT63
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It was produced by the Institute for the Study and Elimination of Jewish Influence on German Church Life. The Protestant theologians associated with the Institute were Nazis.
Nazis created an anti-Semitic Bible and Aryan Jesus
A Nazi institute produced a Bible without the Old Testament that portrayed Jesus as an Aryan hero fighting Jewish people.
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RLT63
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That would explain itIt was produced by the Institute for the Study and Elimination of Jewish Influence on German Church Life. The Protestant theologians associated with the Institute were Nazis.
Nazis created an anti-Semitic Bible and Aryan Jesus
A Nazi institute produced a Bible without the Old Testament that portrayed Jesus as an Aryan hero fighting Jewish people.
Ronald David Bruno
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An internet slap is not too painful ... would you like to meet for a cup of coffee sometime?
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An internet slap is not too painful ... would you like to meet for a cup of coffee sometime?
I don’t drink coffee. Just never developed a taste for it. But if you’re flying I’m buying.
Behold
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If a person identifies themself as a "calvinist" or as their "denomination"< then they've been converted.
Jesus didnt come to die on the Cross to convert us into a Catholic, Calvinist, or a Mormon or a Baptist, or a ___________. Insert the name of your denomination.
How do you know?
Its because men make denominations.
God makes Christians.
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These are very often not even remotely connected other than semantically.
Listen,
Paul told us to "not forsake the assembling of ourselves with other believers".
He never said..>"become a Calvinist" or "become a Catholic" or "become a DENOMINATiON MENTALITY">
Gotta watch that, as there are no denominations in heaven.
They are only down here, where men build these walls to keep others out, very often. ( or lock you in with their cult theology).
Go to Church.
A bible believing Church who have heard of "Paul".
Make certain of that, or you are in a mess.
But be a CHRISTIAN, not a denomination in your head, and theology, as once you become that mindset, you wont be able to be authentically used by God, but your Denomination will give you plenty to do.
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Ronald David Bruno
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Not flying anymore. Anyways, I just wanted to share something with you. I think I was in that thread you mentioned when you revealed that you were an Ante-Nicene Christian. I wasn't aware of any difference as if the Council of Nicea changed orthodoxy.
Pre- Nicene scholars believed in the deity of Christ AND the Trinity as well, Tertullian for one.
Nine Early Church Fathers Who Taught Jesus Is God
For those who think Emperor Constantine invented the deity of Christ, here are thirty-six quotations from nine different church fathers that predate the Council of Nicea.
Not flying anymore. Anyways, I just wanted to share something with you. I think I was in that thread you mentioned when you revealed that you were an Ante-Nicene Christian. I wasn't aware of any difference as if the Council of Nicea changed orthodoxy.
Pre- Nicene scholars believed in the deity of Christ AND the Trinity as well, Tertullian for one.
Nine Early Church Fathers Who Taught Jesus Is God
For those who think Emperor Constantine invented the deity of Christ, here are thirty-six quotations from nine different church fathers that predate the Council of Nicea.www.str.org
Thanks. As you might imagine, one of the areas I spend a great amount of time in is Church history, particularly the writings of the Ante-Nicene Church Fathers.
Consider the following quote -
“Because God is in like manner a Father, and He is also a Judge; but He has not always been Father and Judge, merely on the ground of His always having been God. For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a Judge previous to sin. There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, nor the Son; the former of which was to constitute the Lord a Judge, and the latter a Father.”
Name that author?
Tertullian, Against Hermogenes, Chapter 3.
Do you also believe, as Tertullian did, that there was a time when the Son didn’t exist with the Father? (I do.)
P.S.
I don’t want to discuss what the Board policy currently says must not be discussed. Please consider the question I asked as being rhetorical in nature. If you feel that you must respond to it as a literal question, if you could keep it to a simple yes or no then we should not run afoul of the Board policy.
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Have you by chance ever read a book written by Harold O.J. Brown (a now deceased trinitarian scholar) titled Heresies: Heresy And Orthodoxy In The History Of The Church?
Dr. Brown was an expert on the writings of the Ante-Nicene Church Church Fathers and the Nicene Church Fathers. Church history was his forte. He wrote his book with people like me in mind. His express purpose, his great desire, was to recall ex-trinitarians to Nicaea (325) and Chalcedon (451).
I used it as a textbook in some of my classes. Dr. Brown was a hard core trinitarian; as trinitarian as a trinitarian can be. For those who haven’t read it, I highly recommend it to trinitarian and non-trinitarian readers alike.
Dr. Brown makes some excellent points. However, you would not be happy with what he was forced to acknowledge and concede in his book.
GEN2REV
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They were very important, to be sure.
But they're not the only variables in the equation.
Genealogies, terminology, name of religion, religious practices, etc. all come into play when researching/investigating the case of Jesus being jew.
Pretty fascinating actually.
RLT63
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Behold
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Thx for the question.
What i do most of the time on forums, for many years, is try to rescue good people, who love Jesus, .. = who have fallen victim to what is described in Hebrews 13:9.
That one verse is so incredibly important to the born again, because it explains what to do, and it reveals what will happen to you, if you dont do what it says to do, after you become a Christian.
Also, Only the seed of the living word empowered by God the Holy Spirit can convert,... but, the believer leads the lost to the Light of conversion, who is Christ, the Light of the World.
Its the "preaching of the Cross that is the POWER OF GOD.....unto Salvation".
So, everytime we share with someone, this "gospel", it has the eternal life in it that can take a person from John 3:36, to "born again", in the blink of an eye.
I think if I were to say, “What I do is try to rescue good people who love Jesus” - my accuser would probably reply, “See. I told you so!”
Unless you tell me otherwise, I’m putting you on the “I’m not here to convert people” side of the ledger.
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