You were on the right track with Character = God manifestation as in phanerosis (φανέρωσις,
5321), “a manifestation”, occurs in 1 Corinthians 12:7 and 2 Corinthians 4:2. In Romans 8:19 , kjv, apokalupsis,
“an uncovering, laying bare, revealing, revelation,” is translated “manifestation” (rv, “revealing”). Now the revelation of the Sons of God (including Jesus Christ - yes a Son!) is not the manifestation of a shared divine nature, Christ himself took part in our nature (no hybrid) it was like sinful flesh (Rom 8:1-5) or better rendered, he "had sin prone nature" and for good reason.
How can you overcome a nature and thinking if its not fully in your possession?
This is why Heb 2 was written - Hebrews 2:14
Therefore, since the children (You and I) share in flesh and blood, he (Jesus) likewise shared in their humanity, so that through death he could destroy the one who holds the power of death (that is, the devil - devil here is sin which only has the power of death ), 2:15 and set free those who were held in slavery all their lives by their fear of death.
Same goes for us:
To him who
overcomes, I will grant to eat
Rv 2:7 3528
He who
overcomes will not be hurt by the
Rv 2:11 3528
To him who
overcomes, to him I will give
Rv 2:17 3528
‘He who
overcomes, and he who keeps My
Rv 2:26 3528
‘He who
overcomes will thus be clothed in
Rv 3:5 3528
‘He who
overcomes, I will make him a
Rv 3:12 3528
‘He who
overcomes, I will grant to him to
Rv 3:21 3528
He who
overcomes will inherit these things,
Rv 21:7 3528
These are simple things 101G, but Christianity and its many philosophies have complicated the Gospel.
No preexistence of Christ - No hypostatic nature - no triune god.
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GINOLJC, to all. first, thanks for the response. second I must disagree with your assessment of my statement. you said, "
You were on the right track with Character = God manifestation as in phanerosis (φανέρωσις, 5321), “a manifestation”, occurs in 1 Corinthians 12:7". here is my disagreement.
#1. a manifestation is not the same as an appearance.
#2. The character or the characteristics of a person is abstract, and not concrete.
see, when I say the Lord Jesus is a G5321 φανέρωσις phanerosis of himself, it's only in Spirit, which you correctly identified, and as I have said, according to Acts chapter 2 and supported in 1 Corinthians 12:7-11. but the appearance of the Lord Jesus is two-fold. once before his death and resurrection, and one afterward. let me explain. before his death, he came in flesh and bone with BLOOD as a child, (see Isaiah 9:6). he only took part in our humanity and was not a partaker of it. correct, no No hypostatic nature, NATURALLY.
Now, to the appearance which was in NATURE. the key to understanding this nature are in two scriptures.
#1. Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in
the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God". God NATURE is "Spirit", (see John 4:24a). and this NATURE was not manifested, but appeared, meaning it is concrete. listen, the word "form" here in Philippians 2:6 is the Greek word,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of
G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s):
G3313
and we know from John 4:24a that the NATURE of God is Spirit. but the million dollar question is how is the Lord Jesus "EQUAL" in NATURE/Spirit with God, notice, not equal "to" God but equal "WITH" God. big difference. well, the answer to this verse as well as John 1:1 when it says that the Word was "WITH" God, here is the answer. look at the definition of G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n above in blue. it's
G3313 the BASE or the ROOT of G3444 μορφή morphe. this is where the revelation and the UNDERSTANDING of the Godhead come in clear focus.
G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1.
a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something).
2. a part.
3. (as an adverb) partly, in part.
4. (as a participle) participating (i.e. the act of taking part in).
5. a piece (i.e. a limited portion).
6. (of location) a district.
7. (of livelihood) an occupation (i.e. as ones' portion in life).
8. a portion in Jesus (see John 13:8).
{literally or figuratively, in a wide application}
[from an obsolete but more primary form of μείρομαι mȇírȏmai “to get as a section or allotment”]
KJV: behalf, course, coast, craft, particular (+ -ly), part (+ -ly), piece,
portion, respect, side, some sort(-what)
See also: G266, G3310, H2506
did you see the GREEN highlight?
a portion, what do "a portion" mean? it is synonyms with "SHARE". a share that is "equal" is the same thing, ony
one have tow of the same. hold that thought. now the Greek words, G243 & G2087, allos
& heteros. both have a difference in meaning. Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort;" heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes "another of a different sort". do you see the difference now?
THE equal share is "ANOTHER" of the same sort. meaning two of the same. just what G243 allos
states, a numerical difference, like in "Father" which is THE "numerical difference" from the SON. notice I used the definite article "THE" for both because they are EQUAL. why, because they are the same "SORT". dictionary.com, sort:
1. a particular kind, species, variety, class, or group, distinguished by a common character or nature:
to develop a new sort of painting; nice people, of course, but not really our sort.
2. character, quality, or nature.
look at definition #1. well there is only ONE of the God KIND, only one in the God CLASS, only one in the God GROUP, who have the same character or nature.
now, definition #2. let's get quality, or nature first. remember what G 243 allos
and G2087 heteros says? listen, Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort; heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes "another" of a different sort.
since the Lord Jesus is the same, and equal "quality" then he's not G2087 heteros. man that nailed it.
just in this definition alone, it answered the "GREATER" that I question in John 14:28. Greater in quantity, not in Quality.
This is so easy when one understands that the Lord Jesus is the "OFFSPRING" or the Diversity of himself in flesh.
Now, one more revelation in your question above. "character". as you know I believe that the only PERSON in the Godhead is the Holy Spirit which is the JESUS. the title Holy Spirit gives us the idenity of the "Son" and the "Father". understand, "Holy" is God "character", and character used metaphorically means "SON". Spirit is God Nature, see John 4:24a.
conclusion, "character" is God's "Son", Hebrews 1:3. and "Spirit" is God's Nature "Father". because the Spirit created and made it all. hence the title Holy, character/Son, Spirit, nature/Father, hence the title, Holy .... Spirt.
this title shows "The Son" (Holy) and The "Father" (Spirit)
PCY.