Billions of smartphones and no miracles --- Why?

[Riven]

Ghosts were all the rage before smartphones. Now you never hear about ghosts in contemporary settings. Even all the tv shows have disappeared.

Well its the same with miracles. You still hear people talk about them, but nobody is really capturing them on film. With billions of personal cameras that people carry around everyday in their pockets, you'd think we would have more evidence for the supernatural today than we did in the past. But it appears to be the opposite.

If God is performing miracles in the natural world, we should have video evidence of it. Much like with ghosts, it appears that readily available technology, such as 4K video, has rendered the supernatural obsolete.

Thoughts?

 

[Adventageous]

Ghosts were all the rage before smartphones. Now you never hear about ghosts in contemporary settings. Even all the tv shows have disappeared.

Well its the same with miracles. You still hear people talk about them, but nobody is really capturing them on film. With billions of personal cameras that people carry around everyday in their pockets, you'd think we would have more evidence for the supernatural today than we did in the past. But it appears to be the opposite.

If God is performing miracles in the natural world, we should have video evidence of it. Much like with ghosts, it appears that readily available technology, such as 4K video, has rendered the supernatural obsolete.

Thoughts?

Spiritualism was always a false doctrine, and the modern spiritualism movement came through the fraudulent actions of the Fox sisters. - Fox sisters - Wikipedia

See the following book also - Sincerely Dead Dying, To Know Jesus by brother Aaron Earnest : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
or the following website may be of assistance - Ghosts: Who Are They? | Ghost Truth

Also definitely see Roger Morneau's - A Trip into the Supernatural -

As for "miracles", what do you mean by the word, what is your definition to be looking for? Provide an example (just one or two is fine).

Are you referring to the dead being raised? Do you refer to the physical or spiritual, or both?

Are you referring to the injured (blind, lame, ill, barren, &c.) being healed? Do you refer to the physical or spiritual, or both?

Are you referring to the events in the heavens involving sun, moon and stars (local Sol-system planets)? Do you refer to the physical or spiritual, or both?

Are you referring to events on earth that have occured in exact prophetic timing fulfillment? Do you refer to the physical or spiritual, or both?

Are you referring to interventions by the physical heavenly created beings (aka 'angels of Heavenly host')? Do you refer to visible or invisible occurences of their interventions?

Phones capture "miracles" and "providences" all of the time, but many simply subscribe them to accidental occurences, or simply unexplained phenomena. There are also testimonies, and eyewitnesses, as for instance:

Pavel Goia - Testimony Miracle Story Pavel Goia Talks About Prayer One Miracle After Another : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I have my own testimonies about miraculous providences that I was personally involved in.

There are also historically recorded miracles post NT.

 

[Matthias]

Ghosts were all the rage before smartphones. Now you never hear about ghosts in contemporary settings. Even all the tv shows have disappeared.

Well its the same with miracles. You still hear people talk about them, but nobody is really capturing them on film. With billions of personal cameras that people carry around everyday in their pockets, you'd think we would have more evidence for the supernatural today than we did in the past. But it appears to be the opposite.

If God is performing miracles in the natural world, we should have video evidence of it. Much like with ghosts, it appears that readily available technology, such as 4K video, has rendered the supernatural obsolete.

Thoughts?

If you saw a miracle captured on video, would you believe it?

 

[Riven]

If you saw a miracle captured on video, would you believe it?

In a world dominated by fake AI videos? No.

 

[Matthias]

In a world dominated by fake AI videos? No.

That’s understandable. What if you were completely satisfied that a video wasn’t AI? Would you believe then?

 

[Riven]

That’s understandable. What if you were completely satisfied that a video wasn’t AI? Would you believe then?

Yes.

 

[Matthias]

Yes.

Be careful. Miracles, even real ones, can be deceptive.

”Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming. This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.”

(2Thessalonians 2:8-10, NLT)

 

[Riven]

Be careful. Miracles, even real ones, can be deceptive.

Can you even define what a miracle is? Would it be accurate to say it is the suspension of the laws that govern this universe?

 

[2bme]

Ghosts were all the rage before smartphones. Now you never hear about ghosts in contemporary settings. Even all the tv shows have disappeared.

Well its the same with miracles. You still hear people talk about them, but nobody is really capturing them on film. With billions of personal cameras that people carry around everyday in their pockets, you'd think we would have more evidence for the supernatural today than we did in the past. But it appears to be the opposite.

If God is performing miracles in the natural world, we should have video evidence of it. Much like with ghosts, it appears that readily available technology, such as 4K video, has rendered the supernatural obsolete.

Thoughts?

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[Matthias]

Can you even define what a miracle is? Would it be accurate to say it is the suspension of the laws that govern this universe?

I don’t think of miracles as the suspension of the laws that govern the universe. From a a biblical perspective, I think of miracles more along the lines the source I’m quoting does:

“It is when unexpectedly (or in an unexpected way) a need is met for one without the ability / authority / resources / power to fulfill the need, by someone with the ability / authority / resources / power to fulfill the need.”

A miracle -

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[Jericho]

Can you even define what a miracle is?

That is the question, isn't it? By what metric does one judge what constitutes a miracle? A miracle for one might not be a miracle to another. I personally don't believe a miracle has to necessarily defy the laws of physics to be a miracle.

 

[Riven]

I don’t think of miracles as the suspension of the laws that govern the universe.

They have to be. How else can Jesus walk on water without falling through it? What's interesting is that the disciples didn't fall through the water. It suggests that either the laws aren't being violated, or that Jesus is temporarily suspending the laws only for himself.

 

[Matthias]

They have to be. How else can Jesus walk on water without falling through it? What's interesting is that the disciples didn't fall through the water. It suggests that either the laws aren't being violated, or that Jesus is temporarily suspending the laws only for himself.

In some cases they may be. What I want to get away from is the thinking that a miracle can only be something that defies what we know about the laws of the universe. Miracles happen every day and we think nothing of it.

For example -

 

[Matthias]

“In biblical scholarship the English word miracle normally denotes a supernatural event, that is, an event which so transcends ordinary happenings that it is viewed as a direct result of supernatural power. In the Gospels such events are due to the exercise of God’s power (see Authority and Power) - whether directly or through human or superhuman agents - and reveal and / or effect his saving or judging purposes. Though some writers use miracle with enough latitude to include (predictive) prophecy (see Prophets, Prophecy), it is more common to restictit to supernatural events in the space-time world.”

(Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, “Miracles And Miracle Stories,” p. 549)

It always comes back to the fundamental issue of God’s existence @Riven. If God created the universe, the stories of miracles recorded in the Bible are - in the words of J. Warner Wallace - “small potatoes”.

God’s power to deliver is at the heart of biblical miracles.