Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

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Spiritual Israelite

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Same to you. Dude. LOL!

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What he and I are talking about is completely different than what you and I are talking about. He does not agree with your pre-trib dispensationalist beliefs, either.
Disagreeing with some things does not equate to disagreeing with every thing.
eg I've LIKED some of your previous posts regardless of whether we disagree elsewhere.
Refusing to LIKE simply because you don't agree with that person elsewhere almost sounds like sin to me.
 

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Disagreeing with some things does not equate to disagreeing with every thing.
eg I've LIKED some of your previous posts regardless of whether we disagree elsewhere.
Refusing to LIKE simply because you don't agree with that person elsewhere almost sounds like sin to me.
When did I say I've done that? Never. I actually do give a like to posts of people like him if they say things I agree with. And he has seen that. And you will see that, too, if you ever say something I agree with.
 

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Hey Pin, the ELECT in Matt 24:31, do you believe they are the same group as the SEALED in Eph 4:30 ?
Hmmm, I haven't been following yours and SI's conversation, but I'm sure it's been torturous... I'm sorry you've had to endure that; it always is that way when... "conversing" <chuckles> ...with SI, just because he is who he is... <smile> I mean there's just no grace there, which makes you wonder about some things...

Anyway, yeah, I guess the way I'd answer this is, everyone Paul is speaking to ~ which of course is, immediately, the Christians at Ephesus but also includes us by extension ~ is presumably elect and sealed by the Spirit, but this is only a portion of the elect Jesus is speaking of in Matthew 24. The number of the elect has been a certain number of people since God counted them among His elect even before the foundation of the world. But at any given time, either in Paul's day up to today, the number of the sealed is not yet equal to the number of the elect. One day ~ at the end of this age ~the number of the sealed will equal the number of the elect. Understand? The number of God's elect is what it is... it always has been and always will be. But as of today, people are still being sealed, one by one, and one day, all God's elect will have been sealed. You see?

Grace and peace to you, Peter.
 

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you came up empty with Truth but full of false accusations

You made the claim.
You could not answer me.
I asked you to show me the last day.
You did not know.

Yet you use it recklessly not knowing what it is.

Then you say I have no truth.

You all there ?