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    Read ANY of your posts and wonder why you bother posting when you do the talking "For" you and everyone else...

    It's called: Conversational narcissism with psychopathic tendencies.

    Seek Help.

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    BreadOfLife -

    16 pages in this Thread... and Still you have NOT Quoted One Person Saying "What You Have Claimed FOR them."

    Your words REMAIN "Unverifiable" and False.

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    Wrong again.

    In Romans 7:13-25, Paul talks about DOING that which he does not want to do (SIN).
    He doesn’t blame his flesh -= he accepts the fact that because he is IN the flesh that he commits sin.

    There is NO differentiation between your bizarre comparison of “having” sin and “committing” sin.
    When you read 1 John 1:8 in CONTEXT with Romans instead of cherry-picking, like you’re used to doing – you understand what they’re talking about.
     
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    Wrong.
    I quoted YOU.
     
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    LOL -

    Pauls words say...

    [15] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

    [17] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    And BOL's words say..."FOR PAUL"...Paul was COMMITTING SIN, when Paul says no such thing!

    You CAN NOT COMPREHEND the DIFFERENCE between HAVING SIN, and COMMITTING SIN.

    You are QUICK to go beyond WHAT YOU BELIEVE, "and" DICTATE if men DO NOT BELIEVE AS YOU DO...THEY ARE WRONG, and COMMITTING SIN.

    And your teaching and accusations are but FOLLY of the Foolish.

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    LIE. Not once have you quoted me claiming to HAVE NO SIN...

    Even one with MINOR intelligence, can clearly read you have specifically claimed, I claimed, to HAVE NO SIN....yet now you LIE about have quoted me saying that.

    Your're stuck in a LIE and have deflected and changed the subject and now lie AGAIN...

    Man up. You have made a FALSE Accusation.

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    Paul is absolutely saying that he is sinning.

    He is born again if Christ spiritually. He is saying that it is not his spiritually reborn self but his fleshly self who is sinning.

    He is talking about DOINGT that which he does not want to DO.
    His body can’t DO sin without his will, Einstein.

    He is NOT saying that he doesn‘t sin . . .
     
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    WRONG.

    We’ve already established that if you are forgiven of ALL of your past sins and you are incapable of sinning in the future – which YOU have claimed – then you are SIN-FREE.

    1 John 1:8 says that the truth is NOT in you.
    Therefore – my claims about you are 100% TRUE . . .
     
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    LOL Except Paul never says that he was Committing Sin. [/QUOTE]

    As a LIFE long catholic YOU have been taught to Speak FOR Paul, and everyone else, making claims others have NOT MADE.

    Congrats, catholic brainwashing has had a successful effect on you!

    UGH!

    LOL Dunce... maybe his Carnal Flesh Mind had a sexual thought about some beautiful woman he saw...

    Nice try to deflect! But a fail. He never said he was committing a sin...He has Catholics Like You to make false claims For Him!

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    Nope.

    That which SCRIPTURE establishes for a man IN Christ, applies to me.

    Scripture says no such thing.
    I said no such thing.

    That is YOUR CLAIM...

    You can not help yourself after years of catholic training, that YOU say what Scripture does not say, and then FALSELY claim it is what other people have SAID.

    And NOT ONCE can you quote anyone saying the LIES you have claimed for them...

    You are the WORST kind of Liar and DECEIVER. And NOT ONCE have you quoted me or even PAUL making the Lying Claims YOU have made FOR us.

    Poor thing...you should put away your nonsense and Learn to trust the Truth instead of your Deceptive MIND.

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    Marymog - BreadOfLife

    Rev 22
    [15] For without are ... whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    You both maketh LIES and appear to love your LIES as you both show no shame or remorse, but rather repeat your LIES over and over.

    Oops for you.

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    This is perhaps THE most asinine statement you’ve made so far in this debate.

    Paul’s MIND sinned – but Paul didn’t?? What kind of nonsense is that?? Christ taught that a man who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery (Matt. 5:28).
    In case you forgot - adultery is a SIN.

    Roman 7 is an admission from Paul that he STILL sins, despite his changed heart.
    He – unlike YOU, admits that in his fleshly state, he is still susceptible to sinning.

    In your arrogance – YOU have abandoned the truth of Scripture and have placed yourself above it.

    Good luck with that . . .
     
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    You can play all of the semantic word games you want – but you’re STILL wrong.

    The flesh doesn’t sin on its own without the will. There is nothing sinful about the flesh without the will. The flesh is subject to sin – it is NOT sin itself.
    If the flesh was sin, as YOU claim it is – then Christ had sin – and that is heresy.

    If YOU claim to have have been forgiven and you no longer sin – then you are SIN-FREE.
    1 John 1:8 says you are lying and the truth is NOT in you.
     
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    I have simply pointed out the truth of Scripture as it pertains to your false claims about yourself.
    You’re just another sinner living in denial.

    If that bothers you – take it up with GOD – it’s HIS word, not mine . . .
     
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    LOL amazing the lengths you go to to prove yourself a reprobate.

    The CONTEXT of 1 John 1:8 is Clear...
    "If we say we HAVE no SIN"...

    And WHO has Made that claim....only you.

    Anyone with the basic Knowledge of the TRUE WORD of God, would know all human men are naturally Born with natural Flesh Sin!

    Also you repeatedly Claim to COMMIT SIN...

    1 John 3:8
    [8] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    You were suspect...but you reveal what applies to you...and I agree.
    Thanks for verifying WHO you are OF.

    :( Poor thing.

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    Matt 5 is Jesus speaking to JEWS...
    In case you forgot, Jesus came to SEEK the Lost Jews.
    In case you forgot, adultry is the SIN of AGREEING to FOLLOW the Lord and then REJECTING HIM.

    Not so much that I think you forgot, but rather your UNDERSTANDING of Scripture is ALWAYS Carnally Minded.

    Too bad you did not learn the Carnal Mind is AGAINST God.


    LOL...Paul said no such thing. That is YOUR Lying claims.

    Another Lie.

    SINNING is the COMMISSION of SIN.

    A man BORN OF GOD, still HAS FLESH SIN, and YET is FORGIVEN ALL of His SINS AGAINST GOD.

    You are CLEAR, YOU preach men with the SPIRIT of God IN THEM, CONTINUE to SIN AGAINST GOD...

    LOL...well la de da....what a load of garbage to preach the Spirit of God WITHIN a man, has not ENOUGH POWER to KEEP a man FREE FROM COMMITTING SIN.

    The FACT IS men WITHOUT the Spirit of God IN THEM...CONTINUE TO COMMIT SIN AGAINST GOD...and they are OF the devil...


    And YOUR TESTIMONY IS...YOU continue to Commit SIN...

    In your arrogance, you can not abandon what you never Knew.

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    Soooo, YOU believe that the flesh itself is sin??

    Tell me then – did Christ have sin? He had flesh, so did He have SIN??

    There goes your entire argument . . .
     
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    Good grief your ignorance is astounding.

    THE FLESH IS SIN....duh!

    Psalms 51
    [5] Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

    LOL

    LOL...what a dunce. HUMAN FLESH, created from the DUST OF THE EARTH is SIN...

    YOUR "IF" "THEN" is YOU trying to REWRITE Scripture. There is NOTHING in Scripture that says what you say.

    Christ Jesus CAME FORTH OUT FROM GOD.
    NOTHING whatsoever teaches JESUS WAS A HUMAN created of DUST! .LOL

    John 1
    [13] Which were born......of God.

    John 16
    [27] For the Father himself loveth you (me) because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

    You make yourself look utterly foolish trying to rewrite Scripture. LOL...SIN-FREE is your whacky teaching, and NOT in Scripture, and no one has made that claim......BUT YOU...

    Your claim, your lie, not a big secret every time you open your yap, it is more than obvious Gods TRUTH is not in you....

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    LOL...


    Scriptural TRUTH...
    Jesus came forth out from God..
    Scriptural TRUTH...
    Human Men come forth out from Dust of the Earth...

    Jesus' LIKENESS was that of a HUMAN MAN.

    Obviously you do not Comprehend LIKENESS.

    God Provides HUMAN MEN A WAY to be IN "GODS LIKENESS".

    NEWSFLASH...Jesus was NOT a HUMAN...and HUMAN men are NOT thee Lord God...

    Your trying to REWRITE Scripture is Laughable...but then I would suppose that was something you learned in your catholic upbringing...:(

    Glory to God,
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