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  1. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

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    FLAT OUT LIE. The making of FALSE CLAIMS is your big yap trying to speak for everyone else.

    Another LIE. YOUR WORDS and FALSE ACCUSATIONS ARE NOT GODS WORD, they are YOURS dunce.

    And poor thing...you run in circles because you can NOT prove your FALSE CLAIMS.

    Glory to God,
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    YOUR view of Christ’s flesh is Scripturally-BANKRUPT.

    Christ was born of corruptible flesh – just like YOU and me. This is why He was able to be killed by the Romans. His flesh was transformed at the Resurrection into INCORRRUPTIBLE flesh. This is how He was able to go through closed doors and vanish at will.

    The flesh is NOT sin. It is the HOME of sin and the consequence of sin.
    To say that the flesh itself is sin is to claim that CHRIST was sin because He is 100% MAN and 100% GOD.

    To believe otherwise is flat-out heresy . . .
     
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    UGH...There is NO END to your FALSE CLAIMS...

    :eek:

    As suspected you are totally ignorant of the TRUTH.

    Rom 8
    [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in thelikeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
    Phil.2
    [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in thelikeness of men:

    LOL, I suppose you also teach a man taking on the Likeness of God, becomes God....LOL

    WACKO..

    Glory to God,
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations – you are now in heresy, Einstein . . .

    The Word of GOD says that Christ is FULLY Human and like us in EVERY way:

    Heb. 2:16-17
    For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants. For this reason he had to be made like them, FULLY HUMAN IN EVERY WAY, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.

    Your ignorance of Scripture is only outdone by your incredible arrogance . . .
     
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    Jesus is SPIRIT??
    Where do you get off making THAT claim??

    Jesus is God INCARNATE. Do you know what “incarnate” means?? It means “made FLESH”. He is the Second Person of the Trinity who was made like US in EVERY way (Heb. 2:17) but sin (Heb. 4:15). That means His flesh WAS corruptible and is now INCORRUPTIBLE. He is the FIRSfruits of the Resurrection (1 Cor. 15:20-23).

    YOUR view of Christ is warped and perverted and is completely devoid of the Word of God.
    The FLESH is not sin – or Christ Himself was sinful. It is subject to the consequences of sin.

    YOU are a sinner who refuses to admit it – even though Scripture NAILS you on it (1 John 1:8) . . .
     
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    You use scripture to come up with some unusual doctrine. From whom did you learn it?
     
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    Who taught you these bizarre doctrines?
     
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    John 3
    [6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    John 4
    [24] God is a Spirit:

    John 1
    JESUS
    [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but ... OF God.

    YOU TRY so hard to BE the teacher, the accuser, the Judge...

    By your own Admission, according to your own man-made catholic TRADITONS...
    YOU CLAIM to have RECEIVED a BORN AGAIN spirit....Without YOU YOURSELF ever having Called on the Lord, and Confessing Heartfelt Belief IN God, IN Christ.

    BY WHAT you SAY, and WHAT you DO...there IS ZERO indication YOU have BEEN BORN "OF" the Spirit.

    Your TEACHING, your LACK of SPIRITUAL Understanding, your False Accusations, your Lies, your ridiculous explanations..are ALL PLAIN to SEE...everything ABOUT YOU Remains CARNAL.

    LOL...What an UTTERLY IGNORANT Carnal understanding and explanation...

    HUMAN FLESH IS SIN.
    HUMANS COME OUT OF THE DUST OF THE EARTH...
    Jesus Came FORTH OUT FROM GOD.

    Jesus' FLESH BODY was Prepared of God, FOR WHEN .... God would FULFILL HIS PROMISE to COME FORTH "IN THE LIKENESS AS A MAN" and BE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY HUMAN MEN...

    Heb 10
    [5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

    LOL...God DID NOT PREPARE JESUS A HUMAN BODY OF DUST...NOR DID JESUS' COME from DUST or "RETURN" TO DUST....duh!

    Obviously YOU WERE NEVER TAUGHT THE TRUTH...

    JESUS took Gods Prepared BODY UPON Himself.

    Phil 2
    [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

    JESUS Entered this WORLD IN that Prepared Body. According to GODS PLAN, that JESUS BE REVEALED as A LAWFUL SON of A JEW...in the SPECIFIC genealogy line OF Abraham, Jacob, Isaac, king David....

    ( Likely ALSO unbeknownst to your Carnal understanding....ONLY a LAWFUL DESCENDANT of king David, can SIT on David's (everlasting) Throne... JESUS fulfilled THAT LAW, when Jesus took upon Himself, Abrahams seed . )

    Heb 2
    [16] For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

    JESUS took UPON his Prepared Body, the SINS of this World.

    1 Pet 2
    [24] Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that WE being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    BY your own Admission...YOU are not Dead to SINS....YOU CONTINUE "COMMITTING" SINS.

    And I agree, YOU DO, Because you are STILL Carnal, NOT spiritually quickened.




    LOL...ANOTHER of YOUR LIES.

    Unlike you, I HAVE "FORGIVEN" and "COVERED" SIN...

    I NO LONGER COMMIT SIN AGAINST GOD....
    I never once said I HAVE no SIN...

    That is YOUR LYING CLAIM, in your arrogance to think you have the authority to MAKE FALSE CLAIMS for other People.


    UNLIKE YOU, a Born Again Mans SINS AGAINST God, are FORGIVEN, COVERED WITH Gods INDWELLING SPIRIT, POWER, LIGHT....
    And He remembers them NO MORE.

    UNLIKE YOU, who preaches YOU Continue to sin...
    While the Scripture Teaches a man Born of God DOES NOT, CAN NOT CONTINUE TO SIN.

    You have appointed yourself THEE Forum Catholic teacher...whoop, whoop.

    NOT a newsflash...SOME MEN have forgiven SIN, ONCE and Forever, and can NO MORE Commit SIN...

    NOT a newsflash....SOME MEN falsely CLAIM to be BORN AGAIN...and CLAIM to CONTINUE TO COMMITTING SIN...and REPEATEDLY ask the Lord over and over for their repeatedly commission of SIN.

    What a nuisance...What an untrustworthy man....TO Ask the Lord Over and Over for what HE HAS ALREADY GIVEN to men "BORN OF HIS SEED".

    ....I am NOT LIKE YOU or fall for your Carnal teaching regarding Spiritual things...

    ....To bad you are completely uninformed

    The Lord God hears the prayers of those He has a Father /son relationship with...

    What fool believes a Father /son relationship exists between thee Lord God, and a man WHO "continues" to COMMIT SIN AGAINST GOD? obviously catholics. LOL

    And you are So bent on people being Anti-Catholic....whoop, whoop.

    You should step away from your cult and worry about being Anti-Christ, A Liar and False Accuser.

    Glory to God,
    Taken

     
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    THANK YOU....
    I would say men OF this world come up with USUAL doctrine...

    Jesus is NOT of THIS WORLD, nor is HIS Doctrine USUAL...CARNAL...HIS DOCTRINE IS SPIRITUAL.

    I HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSLY TOLD YOU, MY TEACHER IS CHRIST the Lord Jesus....why do you yet again ASK what you have already been answered?

    Glory to God,
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    LOL...

    Scripture...

    What taught YOU natural born men are NOT BORN IN SIN, and do NOT Commit SIN?

    Your "catholic fathers"?

    LOL....

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    This response illustrates how little you understand about Scripture.
    NONE of what you posted refutes Heb. 2:16-17 or Heb. 4:15. Scripture doesn’t refute Scripture anyway, Einstein.

    God IS Spirit. However, in John 4:24, Jesus is talking about God the FATHER – the FIRST Person of the Trinity – NOT the Son, who is BOTH flesh AND spirit. The Scriptures tell us emphatically that Christ was made just like us in EVERY WAY but sin. Therefore, YOUR insistence that flesh itself is sinful is Biblically-bankrupt because you are stating that Christ Himself had sin.

    The flesh is bound to the consequences of sin – it is NOT sin itself.
    What denomination or religious tradition taught you this horse manure??

    Your understanding of the Word of God is pathetic.
     
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    Got it....your self taught....Mary
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    This sure is an ugly thread....
     
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    LOL ... what an utter Dunce.
    I was NOT refuting Scrripture.

    I was Refuting your words with Scripture.

    LOL - you obviously never learned:
    Men failed by hearing ONLY.
    Men wanted To SEE God.
    For a man to Look upon God, would cause the man to be destroyed.
    God sent forth Himself from Heaven to Earth,
    In a BODY God prepared and took upon Himself.

    Eph 1
    [9] Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which [/QUOTE] he hath purposed in himself: [/B]

    Eph.3
    [11] According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:


    God decreed that which He sent forth To the Earth...would BE to God, A Son, called the Son of God, called JESUS, and God in Heaven would be to Him A Father.

    Heb 1
    [5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him A Father, and he shall be to me A Son?

    You are short sighted...and ARROGANT...

    No Jesus' BODY was NOT...LIKE YOU...
    Jesus' BODy was PREPARED to be IN THE LIKENESS OF "HIS" BRETHREN!

    A Jew, from Judea. Working class common family, According to mans LAW, Legally Jewish, and Lawfully in the genealogy LINE of Abrahams sonship, having been REVEALED coming forth from a Jewish Woman's Womb, subject to Roman rule, raised in the traditions of JEWS, their observances, feasts, and customs. When Jesus walked among His village He LOOKED in the LIKENESS of every other Jew....AND BY His LOOKS and obedience to Jewish Customs, and His BODY having FLESH and BLOOD...He was ACCEPTED AS A MAN, yet was IN FACT GOD "HIMSELF" among His OWN PEOPLE...
    THAT THEY DID NOT YET KNOW
    Later WHEN God IN Heaven revealed to Jesus' DISCIPLES JESUS IS THE CHRIST, GOD having taken upon Himself the Likeness "AS A MAN"....His disciples BELIEVED....SOME Jews Believed...A Few Romans BELIEVED...Many Gentiles began Believing...and then there are the catholics...LIKE YOU...who do their damnest to KEEP God the Father and God the Son SEPARATED...

    Yes Jesus CAME as the PURE TRUTH WORD of God in the LIKENESS AS A JEWISH MAN SEEKING LOST Jews. JESUS DID NOT COME TO YOU, nor IN YOUR LIKENESS.

    JESUS CAME IN THE LIKENESS "AS " A JEWISH MAN, for JEWISH men to SEE, relate to, LEARN FROM, THAT A HUMAN MAN COULD FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE.

    SPEAK the TRUTH, regardless of the Consequences of what the WORLD does to you. LEARN TO BECOME "IN" HIS LIKENESS...
    PAY attention to HOW HE handled satan face to face, (the greatest deceiver and tempter of all time...)

    Jesus did not COME TO YOU, in your LIKENESS. Jesus came to Jews IN THEIR LIKENESS...ALREADY BELIEVING "IN GOD"...slipping away to Gentile ways of the World...and Jesus came with a NEW MESSAGE , a NEW Covenent, THAT THEY COULD RECEIVE the OFFERING of HIS prepared PURE FLESH and BLOOD FOR FORGIVENESS of their SINS and become IN JESUS" LIKENESS, and accounted A son of God.

    No dude Jesus did not come Unto YOU...Jesus OFFERED His TRUTH, Knowledge, Flesh and Blood....of HOW YOU COULD COME TO HIM.

    Even having been given Scripture informing you ALL FLESH is NOT THE SAME...
    YOU still depend on your ignorant carnal mind.

    LOL...Ya sure, I guess you were taught your FLESH is pure, GOOD, pleasing to God, and your Flesh Carnal MIND is completely satisfactory to God....<---LOL

    What you call horse manure...is taught in Gods WORD...
    All human men are shapened/FORMed by the Hand of God, IN SIN and born in SIN. Their CARNAL MIND is FLESH and AGAINST God....

    Guess you never learned the TRUTH...MEN are not BORN Believing IN GOD...duh!

    LOL

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    FROM WHERE dld you get AND teach "your understanding" of Scripture?

    Glory to God,
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    Scripture according to you is bizarre doctrines?

    WOW...

    Glory to God,
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    No. You are not smart enough to comprehend simple language.

    Something obviously completely foreign to YOU...as I PLAINLY SAID TO YOU..
    JESUS is my teacher....
    Dunce...I am not Jesus!

    A most befitting and applicable verse for you. Or anyone who does not know the truth and spouts lies.

    John 3
    [ 12] If I {Jesus} have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I {Jesus} tell you of heavenly things?

    Glory to God,
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    What do you think is the root cause?

    Glory to God,
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    WRONG again.

    Jesus took his DNA from His MOTHER. This is how He was a "Son of David" (Matt. 1:1), Einstein.
    There was nothing "special" or "supernatural" about His flesh. It was just as frail as any other human body. Heb. 2:16-17 tells us emphatically that He was made like us in EVERY way. YOUR denial os this is outright heresy . . .

    It wasn't until His Resurrection that His flesh became glorified. This is why He was able to enter a room through closed doors and vanish at will.
    I shouldn't have to explain this to you - this is Christianity 101.
     
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