Calvinism

[Waiting on him]

2 Peter 2:3 KJV
[3] And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
How do charismatics see this scripture?

Tecarta Bible

 

[Willie T]

2 Peter 2:3 KJV
[3] And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
How do charismatics see this scripture?

Tecarta Bible

Probably about like this:
Warning about False Teachers
1. In the past there arose false prophets among God’s people, just as there will continue to be false teachers who will secretly infiltrate in your midst to divide you, bringing with them their destructive heresies. They will even deny the Master, who paid the price for them, bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow immoral lifestyles. Because of these corrupt false teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. 3 They are only out for themselves,ready to exploit you for their own gain through their cunning arguments. Their condemnation has been a long time coming. But their destruction does not slumber or sit idly by, for it is sure to come.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Oh ok... so you don't believe you are perfect then?

No, do you?

 

[CharismaticLady]

There's no need to compare apples and oranges. Judas was called a devil and the Son of Perdition. Which means he was eternally damned.

Ananias and Sapphira were genuine Christians who brought premature death upon themselves. That is why John speaks about a *brother* who sins and is subject to the sin unto death. And Paul speaks of those who *sleep* (die in Christ) prematurely because they bring judgment and chastening upon themselves (1 Cor 11) by eating unworthily at the Lord's Supper.

I do not believe the same as you on sins unto death, but I'm glad we agree on Judas.

 

[CharismaticLady]

He asked a question which is... literally the opposite of a statement. Are you even reading his responses may I ask? He asks you a question, and you respond that he's making a statement?!?

Or do you just not want to answer? If not I'd rather you just admit that you don't want to answer the question than claim that a question is a statement; it makes it very hard to take anything you say seriously!

I am seriously thinking he is nothing but an internet troll. Have you ever seen him respond with anything but statements which he doesn't prove by Scripture? I'm about ready to put him on ignore.

 

[CharismaticLady]

What statement did I make? I asked a question. One you dodged and made an actual statement without proof.

Again a worthless post.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Your statement here is the very thing I struggle with about the Charismatic Movement, I see many claiming healing and glory clouds, spirit slaying, but it all appears to be acting only. When Jesus healed withered hands were restored before men’s eyes, people lame from birth lept , people blind could literally see now.
Where’s the proof?
And I’ve witnessed this modern performance, and I’m concerned, because the definition for hypocrites is actors.
I personally know many charismatics.

I commanded healing of a paralyzed dog that would need a $5000 operation to fix. He walked the next day. But that is just my word, which you are programed to not believe.

 

[CharismaticLady]

If you could just perform a miracle and video it so we could all watch. That should suffice, and I think it's fair.

My neighbor is a witness. But it wasn't video taped. We were too busy to cast pearls.

 

[Waiting on him]

I commanded healing of a paralyzed dog that would need a $5000 operation to fix. He walked the next day. But that is just my word, which you are programed to not believe.

Commanded???

 

[reformed1689]

Again a worthless post.

Again, not answering questions we ask of you. Are you not capable?

 

[CharismaticLady]

2 Peter 2:3 KJV
[3] And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
How do charismatics see this scripture?

Tecarta Bible

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

The heresy that Jesus does not give us power to not sin is Calvinism.

 

[reformed1689]

The heresy that Jesus does not give us power to not sin is Calvinism.

What what? I don't understand what you are saying here. Please clarify.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Commanded???

Yes, in Jesus name, I commanded the back to heal, and it did.

But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour.

 

[reformed1689]

I commanded healing of a paralyzed dog that would need a $5000 operation to fix. He walked the next day. But that is just my word, which you are programed to not believe.

I highly doubt this.

 

[CharismaticLady]

What what? I don't understand what you are saying here. Please clarify.

Okay, you tell me what Calvinism teaches about Christians sinning?

 

[reformed1689]

Okay, you tell me what Calvinism teaches about Christians sinning?

I'll tell you what the Bible says. We still sin even after salvation.

James said it. Paul said it. Nowhere in Scripture does it say we do not sin if we are saved.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I highly doubt this.

They programmed you very well.

Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful

 

[CharismaticLady]

You are delusional. If true healing and miracles were giong on we would be hearing about it.

You hang around with the wrong people then.

 

[reformed1689]

They programmed you very well.

Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful

No, you just make a claim without any evidence. And if you had such a gift, why are you wasting it on a dog?

It didn't happen.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I'll tell you what the Bible says. We still sin even after salvation.

James said it. Paul said it. Nowhere in Scripture does it say we do not sin if we are saved.

And the Scripture is.......

Again statements without proof.