Calvinism

[Willie T]

I don’t know Willie, based on his definition of what a traitor is (one who leads an enemy to destruction) does that make Jesus a traitor?

What on Earth are you talking about??????
That whole sermon was about Judas.

BTW, the definition of traitor is given at 3:23.

 

[Willie T]

Not if God is at the center of the worship song, drawing our attention to Him and Him only.

No, I'm sorry, but the ancients wouldn't even recognize our music (of ANY generation) as worship.

 

[Waiting on him]

What on Earth are you talking about??????
That whole sermon was about Judas.

Just asking, Jesus led me to the cross some years ago where my flesh( the enemy of God) was destroyed.

 

[Willie T]

Just asking, Jesus led me to the cross some years ago where my flesh( the enemy of God) was destroyed.

Sorry..... you have totally lost me.

 

[reformed1689]

My understanding is that we’re all in an unquenchable fire.

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[Willie T]

What in the world are you talking about?

For once, I agree with you. What the heck is that statement of his all about?

 

[Waiting on him]

What in the world are you talking about?

Hebrews 12:29 KJV
[29] For our God is a consuming fire.

What do you believe is being consumed?
Tecarta Bible

 

[CharismaticLady]

And again you take things out of context. Typical. So by your standard we all go to Hell. Nobody is saved.

I see you don't like the Scripture I posted. I don't do any of those things in that passage of those going to hell. I'm sorry if you relate to some or all of those things.

 

[reformed1689]

I see you don't like the Scripture I posted. I don't do any of those things in that passage of those going to hell. I'm sorry if you relate to some or all of those things.

Really? You have never done ANY of those things? Never been jealous? Never caused dissension? Never been unclean?

I didn't say I didn't like the Scripture. I said you took it out of context. There is a huge difference.

 

[Waiting on him]

What in the world are you talking about?

Luke 12:49 KJV
[49] I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?


Tecarta Bible

 

[Waiting on him]

Jesus baptizes with fire

 

[Waiting on him]

Sorry..... you have totally lost me.

The way I see it Judas performed Gods will, in helping him orchestrate his crusifiction. To many people are hung up on the flesh.
John 14:10 KJV
[10] Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Jesus Himself didn’t accredit anything to Himself (flesh) yet so many claim that somehow their doing works.
I read earlier in a post that it was Jesus’s flesh that was resurrected, wonder why the men that ate,walked and lived with Him didn’t recognize Him?
Tecarta Bible

 

[Mjh29]

I never said I was perfect.

Oh ok... so you don't believe you are perfect then?

 

[Enoch111]

BTW, so you believe Judas is also in heaven? Even though Jesus called him a devil?

There's no need to compare apples and oranges. Judas was called a devil and the Son of Perdition. Which means he was eternally damned.

Ananias and Sapphira were genuine Christians who brought premature death upon themselves. That is why John speaks about a *brother* who sins and is subject to the sin unto death. And Paul speaks of those who *sleep* (die in Christ) prematurely because they bring judgment and chastening upon themselves (1 Cor 11) by eating unworthily at the Lord's Supper.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Really? You have never done ANY of those things? Never been jealous? Never caused dissension? Never been unclean?

I didn't say I didn't like the Scripture. I said you took it out of context. There is a huge difference.

Again you make statements without proof.

 

[Mjh29]

Again you make statements without proof.

He asked a question which is... literally the opposite of a statement. Are you even reading his responses may I ask? He asks you a question, and you respond that he's making a statement?!?

Or do you just not want to answer? If not I'd rather you just admit that you don't want to answer the question than claim that a question is a statement; it makes it very hard to take anything you say seriously!

 

[reformed1689]

Again you make statements without proof.

What statement did I make? I asked a question. One you dodged and made an actual statement without proof.

 

[Waiting on him]

Again you make statements without proof.

Your statement here is the very thing I struggle with about the Charismatic Movement, I see many claiming healing and glory clouds, spirit slaying, but it all appears to be acting only. When Jesus healed withered hands were restored before men’s eyes, people lame from birth lept , people blind could literally see now.
Where’s the proof?
And I’ve witnessed this modern performance, and I’m concerned, because the definition for hypocrites is actors.
I personally know many charismatics.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Again you make statements without proof.

If you could just perform a miracle and video it so we could all watch. That should suffice, and I think it's fair.

 

[Waiting on him]

If you could just perform a miracle and video it so we could all watch. That should suffice, and I think it's fair.

That would be interesting.