Can Priests Forgive Sin?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

CadyandZoe

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2020
5,766
2,138
113
Phoenix
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Well, if I am not forgiving you, and the Lord is not forgiving you, who is forgiving you?
In the Bible, there is a clear difference between forgiveness between humans and forgiveness from God. This can be seen in the story of David, who sinned murdering Uriah the Hittite, Bathsheba's husband. When David was caught, he admitted to the Lord, "I have sinned against you and you alone," as stated in Psalm 51:4. David recognized that as a king, orchestrating the death of a servant unjustly is considered murder, which is a sin against the Lord and the Lord only.

Sometimes we hurt others, and asking for their forgiveness is essential. If we don't, we also offend God. However, there are also times when we only offend God; in those cases, we should deeply regret our actions and ask him for forgiveness.

According to Jesus, God has granted him the power to forgive our transgressions against Him. Additionally, he informs his apostles that they will possess the ability to identify when God has pardoned an individual. It is important to note that the apostles do not possess the authority to absolve individuals of their sins against God. Instead, they possess the ability to recognize when God has forgiven someone.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Johann

CadyandZoe

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2020
5,766
2,138
113
Phoenix
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Could it be that Jesus is God in flesh (Matthew 1:23)?
It is important to note that there exists a subject/object relationship between the Father and the Son. This relationship allows for the Father to grant the Son the authority to pardon our offenses against God, making perfect sense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Johann

Johann

Well-Known Member
Apr 2, 2022
8,611
4,885
113
63
Durban South Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
I know this is controversial, but I believe Jesus was God in flesh, but I also believe Jesus was playing a role - setting an example for the rest of us.

So, yes, I believe that Jesus could forgive sins, since he was God in flesh, but in the role he was playing - setting an example for us - I wonder if he was just pointing out that God had forgiven the sins of the repentant Christians ("Your sins are forgiven").
Only Jesus can forgive our sins brother-we have NO power to forgive the sins of others.
J.
 

Johann

Well-Known Member
Apr 2, 2022
8,611
4,885
113
63
Durban South Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Are you saying our Father in heaven can't forgive sins?
Please look up the Scriptures for yourself-comparing Scripture with Scripture.
Thanks
J.
Is Jesus the only one who can forgive sins?
Jesus himself said that Scripture cannot be altered (John 10:35). Only Jesus can forgive sins. “Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins” (Hebrews 9:22). Only Jesus shed blood for us by dying on the cross and since he was the only one who was sinless (1 Peter 1:19/2:22)

Forgiveness in the Bible is a “release” or a “dismissal” of something. The forgiveness we have in Christ involves the release of sinners from God’s just penalty and the complete dismissal of all charges against us (see Romans 8:1). Colossians 1:14 says that in God’s beloved Son “we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.” The Amplified Bible translates the last phrase like this: “the forgiveness of our sins [and the cancellation of sins’ penalty].” God’s gracious forgiveness of our sin is to be the measure of our gracious forgiveness of others (Ephesians 4:32).
 
Last edited:

Bob Estey

Well-Known Member
Aug 18, 2021
4,867
2,589
113
71
Sparks, Nevada
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Please look up the Scriptures for yourself-comparing Scripture with Scripture.
Thanks
J.
Is Jesus the only one who can forgive sins?
Jesus himself said that Scripture cannot be altered (John 10:35). Only Jesus can forgive sins. “Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins” (Hebrews 9:22). Only Jesus shed blood for us by dying on the cross and since he was the only one who was sinless (1 Peter 1:19/2:22)

Forgiveness in the Bible is a “release” or a “dismissal” of something. The forgiveness we have in Christ involves the release of sinners from God’s just penalty and the complete dismissal of all charges against us (see Romans 8:1). Colossians 1:14 says that in God’s beloved Son “we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.” The Amplified Bible translates the last phrase like this: “the forgiveness of our sins [and the cancellation of sins’ penalty].” God’s gracious forgiveness of our sin is to be the measure of our gracious forgiveness of others (Ephesians 4:32).
Didn't you say only Jesus can forgive sins?
 

Emily Nghiem

Active Member
Jun 16, 2021
297
105
43
57
Houston
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Priests help people (1) to *ASK* and receive forgiveness themselves. Priests cannot forgive FOR you, but YOU have to *ask for yourself* for God through Christ to help with forgiveness. Nobody can do this for you. but Priests or other believers can help you to ask! (2) once you ask, then praying together in Christ can help you receive the forgiveness and healing THAT COMES FROM GOD through Christ. Not the Priests. The priests and nobody else can "act as Christ." We only act as vehicles by praying in agreement in Christ.

So the priests/ministers/pastors or prayer partners help people ASK and help people RECEIVE FROM GOD.
 

friend of

Well-Known Member
Sep 22, 2018
1,750
1,370
113
33
B.C.
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
I don't believe priests have the power invested in them to forgive sin but I also don't see anything wrong with formally confessing sins to a priest or pastor.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Emily Nghiem

Emily Nghiem

Active Member
Jun 16, 2021
297
105
43
57
Houston
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I don't believe priests have the power invested in them to forgive sin but I also don't see anything wrong with formally confessing sins to a priest or pastor.
Reminds me of James 5:16
RE "Confessing our faults one to another
And praying for each other
That we may be healed"

This is still through Christ Jesus Authority
And it's from "2 or 3" witnesses/believers
Praying in agreement "on anything they ask
Touching the earth where God's will is done in Heaven"
Matthew 18:15-20

Praying with priests is praying in agreement in Christ
With all the believers those people have also been praying
In agreement with. So it grows the connection and healing
Among the church body in Christ, the more we pray together
In agreement with each other individually and in groups.

Priests and pastors are just another vehicle as are each of us a cog in the wheel that connects us with other cogs, so what comes around goes around.
 
Last edited:

Emily Nghiem

Active Member
Jun 16, 2021
297
105
43
57
Houston
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
As for the earlier post asking "when Jesus said your sins are forgiven" was Jesus just stating what He already knew or was He actually declaring and enacting the forgiveness?

I'd say Jesus was just stating that God's forgiveness is already given and just has to be asked for to be received.

Jesus is teaching this by saying it to people so the people "agree to receive" this knowledge and receive the Grace.

Jesus cannot force people to receive it, we just have to agree it is ours and let it in.

Jesus assuring and teaching people is like encouraging and empowering us.

First people must agree to receive Jesus and through that connection then we can receive God's truth love and grace/forgiveness.

But none of these steps can be forced to happen by Jesus commanding it.

We agree to let Jesus/God in and agree to receive the forgiveness, transformation and healing of God through Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Azim

Titus

Well-Known Member
Feb 5, 2022
1,812
507
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Can Priests Forgive

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Amen, Amen, Amen!!!!

Catholics are gulity of widdling on Gods end of the stick!!!

Simply put,
The apostles themselves as men never took away the sins of other men.
It was the  gospel that they were commanded to go and preach to the whole world that had the power to retain sin or sins remitted.
John 20:22-23,
- whose soever sins ye(apostles) remit they are retained unto them and whose soever sins ye retain they are retained

How did the apostles go about remitting others sins and retaining others sins?

What were they commanded by Jesus to do?
Mark 16:15-16,
- go ye(apostles) into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature he that believeth and is baptized will be saved; he that believeth not will be condemned

Jesus is telling the apostles in John 20:22-23 that the gospel will save(remit sin).
Also the gospel they preach if unbelieved by the hearer will (retain sin).

This is how the apostles will do this by the preaching of the gospel.

The gospel is a gospel of reconciliation, remits sin
To those who reject it,
It is a gospel of condemnation, retains sin.

The gospel saves or condemns. It has this power!!!
Romans 1:16,
- for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for IT is the Power of God to salvation

2Thessalonians 1:8,
- in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
 
  • Like
Reactions: Johann

BreadOfLife

Well-Known Member
Jan 2, 2017
20,977
3,418
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Can Priests Forgive Sin?

The Catholic Church claims that its bishops and priests have inherited from the apostles the power to forgive penitent sinners. Please notice the following:

"Who has the power to forgive sin today?
"All bishops and priests of the Catholic Church can forgive sin." (A Catechism for Adults, p. 85).
"Christ conferred upon the Apostles the power to forgive sins: 'Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven.' (John 20:23). St. Paul mirrors the faith of the Apostolic Church when he writes: 'God hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation' (II Cor. 5:18).
"As the inheritors of the power and authority of the Apostles, the bishops and priests of the Catholic Church exercises the ministry of reconciliation, forgiving penitent sinners in the name of Jesus Christ." (The Faith of Millions, pp. 71-72).
Catholic bishops and priests are claiming a power which the apostles did not possess or exercise. Jesus said to the apostles, "Receive the Holy Spirit; whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained." (John 20:22-23). Thus, only by the possession of the Holy Spirit would the apostles have the authority to forgive and retain sins. As the Holy Spirit guided them in their preaching and writing, they delivered God's plan for forgiving and retaining sins (Luke 24:45-49; Acts 2:38). This alone was their "power to forgive sins" and how it was exercised.

Confession to priests?
We are taught in the New Testament to confess our sins to God and He will forgive and cleanse us from all iniquity. "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9 Catholic RSV). Also, we are instructed that when we sin, Jesus Christ is our advocate with the Father and the propitiation for our sins (1 John 2:1-2). In Heb. 4:14-16, the writer teaches that Christians have full and complete access to God through Jesus Christ and may come boldly to the throne of grace and obtain mercy.

The New Testament teaches that one's confession should be as public as the sin, e.g., "And many of those who believed kept coming, and openly confessed their practices." (Acts 19:18). If the sin was against God only, it needs to be confessed only to God (1 John 1:9). If the sin was committed against one or a number of individuals, it should be confessed to God and to those who have been wronged. James 5:16 says, "Confess, therefore, your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be saved." This means that Christians are to confess to each other and applies to sins committed against each other. It cannot mean that the Christian is to confess to the priest because it would require that the priest confess back to the Christian--"confess your sins to one another."

There is no command or example in the New Testament for Christians to confess sins to a priest to obtain absolution. The Testament gives instructions on every good work imposed upon children of God (2 Tim. 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:3), but it doesn't mention a single word regarding "auricular confession" or that which is done in the modern Catholic confessional. There is no allusion or indication, no command, example, or inference in the Scriptures regarding the confessional. In short, there is not the slightest hint concerning that which is done by Catholics today. When one believes or practices something in religion which is not in the written New Testament, all of the following divine principles immediately apply.

It is not a good work (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
It does not pertain to life and godliness (2 Pet. 1:3).
It causes one to not have God (2 John 9).
It is not authorized by Christ (Col. 3:17).
It cannot be done by faith (2 Cor. 5:7; Rom. 10:17).
It is going beyond what's written (1 Cor. 4:6).
It is not as the oracles of God (1 Pet. 4:11).
It is not according to the pattern (Heb. 8:5).
It does not pertain to the seed of the kingdom (Luke 8:11).
It is not of righteousness (Rom. 1:16-17; 10:1-3).
It is of "no such commandment" (Acts 15:24).
It is iniquity (Matt. 7:23).
It is of men (Matt. 15:9; Col. 2:8).
It is not of truth (John 4:24).
It is another gospel (Gal. 1:6-9)
It is adding to the Word of God (Rev. 22:18; Deut. 4:2).
The following quotes from Catholic sources show that the practice of auricular confession slowly and gradually developed.

Since there are no passages in the New Testament authorizing the Catholic confessional, it is a sinful practice. We emphasize again that we cannot go beyond the things that are written and be pleasing to God (1 Cor. 4:6; 2 John 9). When we add the traditions and doctrines of men, our worship becomes vain (Matt. 15:9; Col. 2:8). If we change, add to, delete from, or pervert the gospel of Christ, the curse of God rests upon us (Gal. 1:6-9; Rev. 22:18-19).


Correct me if I'm wrong.
WRONG.

The practice of confessing our sins to a priest is based directly in Scripture. Three times in the Gospels (Matt. 16:19, 18:18 and John 20:23), we read where Jesus gave the Apostles the power to FORGIVE sins or to hold them bound. This is NOT a something that Jesus took lightly. In John 20, Jesus (who is God) breathes on the Apostles as he is giving them this power:

John 20:21-23
(Jesus) said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you."

And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU retain are retained."


What did the Father send the Son to do??
To being about the FORGIVENESS of sins.

The fact that Jesus breathed on the Apostles when entrusted them with this ministry is highly significant because he doesn’t do this anywhere else in the New Testament. In fact, there are only TWO times in ALL of Scripture where God breathes on man:
- The first is when he breathed life into Adam.
- The second is here in John’s Gospel when he is giving them the power to forgive or retain sins.

The practice of confessing your sins to the Church is an ancient one that goes all the way back to the Apostles themselves. We see this in the 1st century document, the Didache (The Teachings of the Twelve Apostles), where it emphatically states the necessity of confessing our sins to the Church:

Confess your sins in Church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . , On the Lord's Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14,14:1 [A.D.70]).

Paul makes no small case for this ministry of reconciliation clearly.
2 Cor. 5:18-20:

“And all this is from God, who has reconciled US to himself through Christ and given US the ministry of reconciliation, namely, God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting their trespasses against them and entrusting to US the message of reconciliation. So WE are ambassadors for Christ, as if God were appealing through US.
WE implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.”


In 2 Cor. 2:10, he states, “Whomever you forgive anything, so do I. For indeed what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for you in the presence of Christ.

In Greek, the word “presence” in this phrase is Prosopone, which means Person. In the PERSON of Christ is a more correct translation. Paul was indicating that they were forgiving sins in the PERSON of Christ, which is translated into Latin as In Persona Christi.
 

L.A.M.B.

Well-Known Member
Mar 22, 2022
4,383
5,794
113
USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The word says this,
*****Only Jesus can forgive sins.

Hebrews 9:15-22
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood there is NO REMISSION .

1 Peter 3:18
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.

Matthew 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
 

BreadOfLife

Well-Known Member
Jan 2, 2017
20,977
3,418
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The word says this,
*****Only Jesus can forgive sins.


Hebrews 9:15-22
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood there is NO REMISSION .

1 Peter 3:18
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.

Matthew 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
And JESUS said this to the leaders of His Church on the night before He was crucified:

John 16:12-15

“I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to YOU the things that are coming.

He will glorify me, because he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.

EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS IS MINE; for this reason I told you that HE WILL TAKE FROM WHAT IS MINE AND DECLARE IT TO YOU.

Three
days later, on the night of His Resurrection, He gave them the power to FORGIVE OR RETAIN SINS in His name:
John 20:21-23

(Jesus) said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent ME, so I send YOU."
And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU retain are retained."


As I stated in an earlier post - What did the Father send the Son to do??
He sent Him to being about the FORGIVENESS of sins.

Jesus sent the Apostles to do the SAME.
 

Philip James

Well-Known Member
May 4, 2018
4,276
3,092
113
Brandon
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
In the case of Jesus, the Father gave the Son the authority to forgive sins.



(Jesus) said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you."

And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit.

Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained."


Happy New Year!