StanJ said:
I quoted Hebrews 9:27 and I asked you if you believe it or 1 John 5:13 or both? Luke 8:11-15 shows four different types of people and only the first one is not saved. The rest are. You said here that you believe apostates are without seed and truth yet Hebrews 6:4-6 contradicts you plainly.
Heb 9:27, Judgment comes at Bema Seat and Great White throne. 1 Pet 1:23, 2 John 1:2, Eph 1:13-14 contradicts Heb 6:4-6. Sounds like God is confused.
2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before
the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
StanJ said:
but they can walk away from their faith and become apostate. it's not losing your salvation if you walk away from it and no longer believe.
Underline: Looks like God is in contradiction again. God says He will lose none. Even dead people can't be lost 1 Cor 15:17-18.
John 17:12 While I was with them,
I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
John 18:8-9 Jesus answered, “I told you that I am he. If you are looking for me, then let these men go.” 9This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “
I have not lost one of those you gave me.”
1 Cor 15:12-19 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17
And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.
StanJ said:
it's not losing your salvation if you walk away from it and no longer believe.
Well, fortunately for me I chose life a long time ago. Do you have the Son Stan. 1 John 5:11-12.