Catholics

[Job]

Odd interpretation. But without authority you can make it mean whatever you want.

God is my authority, whose yours?

 

[aspen]

When I started posting here about ten years ago......mjrhealth was not outspokenly against Catholic doctrine. Perhaps we (Catholics) have contributed to his negative views of the Church. I apologize for my part.

 

[Job]

I'm in the Catholic Church. Hey! Wait a minute! What are you saying?

I'm saying "church", not the "people", is satanic in nature.

Watch those videos I posted with an open mind. There's a lot of information in there. If you think it's a lie, do some research.

 

[Old Man]

I got it from God.

How?

 

[Job]

How?

1 John 2
27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

 

[Old Man]

I'm saying "church", not the "people", is satanic in nature.

Watch those videos I posted with an open mind. There's a lot of information in there. If you think it's a lie, do some research.

So now you're saying the Church is not the people? It seems I've read several times here that Christ's Church is made up of people. Do you not agree with that?

I watched every minute. I had trouble finding even a single assertion that wasn't in total error. Just one example: The upside down cross. Peter was crucified upside down because he said he wasn't worthy to die in the same manner as our Lord. So the Romans thought they would be funny and flipped him upside down. So the upside down cross is prominent in articles used by the pope who is St. Peter's successor. I belong to St. Peter's parish in Steubenville, OH. Our emblem contains an upside down cross and keys as well as the symbols for the three religious orders that had something to do with our history: Dominican, Benedictine and Franciscan. Home - St. Peter Church

St. Peter died in what is now St. Peter's square. The last thing he saw before he met the Lord was the obelisk. The same hunk of stone that is there now. It was brought from Egypt by Caesar but he is dead and so is his empire. The Church however, lives on and the obelisk is a memorial of our triumph over pagan Rome.

 

[Old Man]

God is my authority, whose yours?

REally? Did God make those awful videos?

My authority resides in the establishment Jesus founded, built on the Rock, and promised to remain with until the end of the age.

 

[Job]

So now you're saying the Church is not the people? It seems I've read several times here that Christ's Church is made up of people. Do you not agree with that?

The catholic church is not Christ's church.

 

[Job]

REally?

Yes, really.

 

[Job]

I belong to St. Peter's parish in Steubenville, OH.

Is this it?

 

[Old Man]

1 John 2
27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

This verse is very interesting when taken out of context. But the context seems to clarify it for me. John is addressing a whole assembly. He talks about unity. He talks about those who've left the fold and that it was God's plan so that they would be found out. Near the end of the chapter he makes this statement. It seems to me that he is addressing the whole assembly, not any of the individuals. Of course some need to be taught--like the children--but as a whole they don't need an outsider to come in and teach them. That's what it seems to me, and without any authority you can't deny me that interpretation. I wonder what the original Greek says? Is John using the plural form of "you" or the singular. That might clear things up.

But anyway, I'm very interested in you (singular)! So, you received a special anointing that teaches you concerning all things? It teaches you that I am worshiping Satan without even knowing it? It teaches you that if I bow down in front of anything, even if it's just to retrieve a dropped nickle, that I'm worshiping it? It teaches you how to read what's in my heart when I practice my faith? I doubt it.

 

[Job]

That's what it seems to me, and without any authority you can't deny me that interpretation.

You can interpret anything you want anyway you want. I'm not your keeper.

 

[Old Man]

Do you see these things in your church?

Everyone should see this.

My favorite part is the unanswerable accusation that Vatican City is a city. So damning! The bible says the harlot is from a great city! Awww man. Busted! But the streets form triangles! Oh man! It must be satanic!

This is what your anointing teaches you?

 

[Old Man]

You can interpret anything you want anyway you want. I'm not your keeper.

So, scripture is incapable of guiding us to truth. If you can interpret a verse one way, and I another, who's right? How do we know?

 

[Old Man]

Is this it?

That's the church building. The parish is made up of the people who live in the neighborhood and attend services here.

 

[Job]

This is what your anointing teaches you?

Good-bye Old Man.

I don't need the snarky remarks.

 

[Old Man]

The catholic church is not Christ's church.

So you keep saying. But you seem to belong to a church of one. You are your own pope. You are the only member. Must make pot lucks difficult.

 

[Old Man]

Good bye, Job. It was fun.

 

[aspen]

Vatican Treasurer facing sex assault charges - CNN
Vatican Treasurer facing sex assault charges — CNN

So....the correct response from the laity is a demand for justice for the victims in Australia and a zero tolerance for sexual abuse in the church.

Because, it's sort of moot to demand fingerprinting for Catechism teachers when Cardinals at the Vatican can be considered for promotion with these type of charges pending.

 

[BreadOfLife]

No...and to say so is a denial of "Christ in us." Which [again] is Antichrist.

The only thing that is "Antichrist" in this conversation is YOUR rejection of the leadership Christ Himself set up.
that's why He told them:

Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

Good luck with that . . .