Christian Patriotism - How Far Is Too Far?

[Davy]

Wait, so you think I'm looking for "sympathy" from you people...of all the people on the face of the earth? I don't need your sympathy. I know exactly who I and my people really are now, and I know that God will regather his people to their rightful place in Jerusalem when the time comes. So what I'd do if I were a "Christian patriot" gentile, is take my "sympathy" and smear it all over the walls and floor of "my" nations capital building....dressed like a buffoon. ;)

The only ones that will be gathered to Jerusalem and its cities at Christ's return are those of FAITH on Him. Being born of the seed of Israel is not an automatic guarantee of being gathered back to the holy land. Instead, God's Word says those who reject His Son will be cast out.

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[BarneyFife]

Welcome to my Ignore list, BarnyFife (what a joke, since the real Barny Fife on the Andy Griffin show was an American Patriot!).

I can't help but find it mildly amusing that he knows all about Barney Fife but he doesn't seem to know the name of the show. How odd.

 

[Enoch111]

What does race have to do with the question?

If you are obsessed with race -- as this poster is -- then everything is related to race.

That's why the racists tore down the statue of Abraham Lincoln recently, even though he was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of whites in order to end the slavery of blacks.
Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln ...

The race card has been used very effectively by the enemies of truth and righteousness (since Obama came on the scene). And American Blacks fall for it over and over again. They do not see that they are in fact being manipulated by racists. "You ain't black if you don't vote for [racist] Biden"

 

[Davy]

And now the enemies of Christ are trying to make like the word 'patriot' is a racist word. Fact is, all those in the U.S. that took the oath to defend the Constitution of The United States of America are patriots. That's what taking that oath reveals. So who all would that be? All... U.S. Presidents, Senators, Congressmen, Congresswomen, Judges, firemen, police officers, military, FBI, BATF, CIA, etc., all city officials, all public servants.

So are we to now believe that all those above patriots who took that oath are now domestic terrorists?? That's exactly what it means if one listens to and believes the lies from anti-Christian groups that are against the idea of serving America and its people.

 

[BarneyFife]

And now the enemies of Christ are trying to make like the word 'patriot' is a racist word. Fact is, all those in the U.S. that took the oath to defend the Constitution of The United States of America are patriots. That's what taking that oath reveals. So who all would that be? All... U.S. Presidents, Senators, Congressmen, Congresswomen, Judges, firemen, police officers, military, FBI, BATF, CIA, etc., all city officials, all public servants.

So are we to now believe that all those above patriots who took that oath are now domestic terrorists?? That's exactly what it means if one listens to and believes the lies from anti-Christian groups that are against the idea of serving America and its people.

Incredible straw man you've built there.

 

[ChristisGod]

It's better than having them rest on the shoulders of the Antichrist.

the governments are under the god of this world, who rules this world and we are not children of this world and this world is not our home. we are to set our minds on the things above not on the things of this world.

1 John 2:15-17
15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

John 16:11
Of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.

James 1:27
Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

James 4:4
You adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever chooses to be a friend of the world renders himself an enemy of God.

hope this helps !!!

 

[amadeus]

You don't fool me as to what you are up to here on this forum. Eventually, those in Christ Jesus here will also know you are a fake. Welcome to my Ignore list, BarnyFife (what a joke, since the real Barny Fife on the Andy Griffin show was an American Patriot!).

Shades of McCarthyism?

McCarthyism:
A vociferous campaign against alleged communists in the US government and other institutions carried out under Senator Joseph McCarthy in the period 1950–54. Many of the accused were blacklisted or lost their jobs, although most did not in fact belong to the Communist Party.

Do you realize how many really Patriotic people were hurt and ruined during that period from 1950-1954 because someone made an accusation without real evidence? They were not convicted in any court, but nonetheless they suffered the very negative consequences for the remainder of their lives. Why do you presume that anyone agreement with you on every point is a convicted enemy. Do not you not believe in that little phrase, which is supposed to be so important to justice in the country: innocent until proven guilty?

"Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matt 7:1-3

 

[amadeus]

More propaganda against the American people. Is this forum the kind of place that hates the American people like this ignoramous talks like?

What do you think about the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? It gives each citizen the right to speak his mind, does it not?

 

[ChristisGod]

And now the enemies of Christ are trying to make like the word 'patriot' is a racist word. Fact is, all those in the U.S. that took the oath to defend the Constitution of The United States of America are patriots. That's what taking that oath reveals. So who all would that be? All... U.S. Presidents, Senators, Congressmen, Congresswomen, Judges, firemen, police officers, military, FBI, BATF, CIA, etc., all city officials, all public servants.

So are we to now believe that all those above patriots who took that oath are now domestic terrorists?? That's exactly what it means if one listens to and believes the lies from anti-Christian groups that are against the idea of serving America and its people.

Are you saying there is no corruption in every one of the above institutions ?

And are you denying Jesus and the Apostles teaching that the WHOLE WORLD lies under the power and influence of the evil one ?

hope this helps !!!

 

[justbyfaith]

the governments are under the god of this world,

The Bible says that the government shall be upon the shoulders of Christ (Isaiah 9:6-7).

 

[BarneyFife]

The Bible says that the government shall be upon the shoulders of Christ (Isaiah 9:6-7).

It's clear that you do not interpret that passage as do many other Bible students.

 

[justbyfaith]

It's clear that you do not interpret that passage as do many other Bible students.

I interpret it according to Romans 13.

 

[ChristisGod]

The Bible says that the government shall be upon the shoulders of Christ (Isaiah 9:6-7).

HIS GOVERNMENT ie HIS KINGDOM which is NOT of this world.

Quit TWISTING scripture to support your false doctrines.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

@justbyfaith has this happened yet ? yes or no

Daniel 7:13-14
“In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

1 Corinthians 15
But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

 

[BarneyFife]

HIS GOVERNMENT ie HIS KINGDOM which is NOT of this world.

I gotta say this is exactly where I'm coming from. John 18:36

 

[ChristisGod]

I gotta say this is exactly where I'm coming from. John 18:36

ditto

some people are so worldly minded they are of no heavenly good on this earth.

 

[justbyfaith]

@justbyfaith has this happened yet ? yes or no

Daniel 7:13-14
“In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

1 Corinthians 15
But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

See Romans 13.

 

[ChristisGod]

See Romans 13.

more abuse of scripture that has to do with submitting to government as long as it doesn't violate Gods law and that God raises up(Biden) and takes down(trump) leaders.

 

[justbyfaith]

more abuse of scripture that has to do with submitting to government as long as it doesn't violate Gods law and that God raises up(Biden) and takes down(trump) leaders.

It says clearly that there is no power but of God and that the powers that be are ordained of God (Romans 13:1).

 

[ChristisGod]

It says clearly that there is no power but of God and that the powers that be are ordained of God (Romans 13:1).

duh................................

except the kingdom of God is not the kingdom of this world as you insinuated.