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bbyrd009

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This is moral relativism.
Sin is sin - no matter HOW much you try to rationalize it.
um, that is just a quote from Scripture bro, that i saw you were also not acknowledging. Rom 14, James 4...one other that i can't think of right now
interesting though, i never knew Catholics had tossed this too. Paul's "all things to all ppl," that gone too?
 

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No need to apologize to me. I'm IN the Church established by Christ and His Apostles.
It's YOU and the rest of Protestantism who chose to follow men in the 16th century and beyond.
ha ya, you looove the Hegelian Dialectic, huh, imo you better go learn what that means lol. You are excluding yourself and you don't even know it. But tbh as short as your time is i'd be working on that anger at being forgiven you got goin on there bro. peace
 

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Shooting yes not much truth.. and you said you where not a bully, so sad.
whenever someone tells you they have the truth, it means they are lying, and are trying to convince themselves, not you.
Scripture (or a black street person, if you try that yack in jail lol) will even confirm this.
Now i do not mean by that that every time someone says "the truth is that _____" in the moment they are lying, bc it is either inferred or they deliberately qualify their statement of "truth" at the time, usually, so don't get me wrong there
 

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ha ya, you looove the Hegelian Dialectic, huh, imo you better go learn what that means lol. You are excluding yourself and you don't even know it. But tbh as short as your time is i'd be working on that anger at being forgiven you got goin on there bro. peace
Not "angry" at all. I've never been on this forum.
Just puttin' lies and you who tell them in their place . . .
 

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um, that is just a quote from Scripture bro, that i saw you were also not acknowledging. Rom 14, James 4...one other that i can't think of right now
interesting though, i never knew Catholics had tossed this too. Paul's "all things to all ppl," that gone too?
No - it wasn't a quote from Scripture. The Bible doesn't teach that "a sin for you may not be a sin for me" or any other moral relativism.

Don't you EVER tire of being proven wrong??
 

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Shooting yes not much truth.. and you said you where not a bully, so sad.
To be a bully, one must be stronger than the victim.
Are you saying that because we Catholics have a stronger case, that I am a "bully"??

Thanks.
 

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No - it wasn't a quote from Scripture. The Bible doesn't teach that "a sin for you may not be a sin for me" or any other moral relativism.

Don't you EVER tire of being proven wrong??
are you just psychologically incapable of addressing a point, BoL?
yes, that was a quote from Scripture, and you can deny it until you die, still won't make it not a quote from Scripture bro

But whoever doubts stands condemned if he eats

implies--at least to grownups--that whoever does not doubt is not condemned, and once again sorry about your luck there.
It is actually even explained, for the hard of hearing, dunno if that is still in DRB or not tho.

I don't understand why you just don't abandon the Bible, and follow your heart, rather than trying to pretend you are a Christian, isn't exactly like they are on the upswing or anything lol. peace
 
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No - it wasn't a quote from Scripture. The Bible doesn't teach that "a sin for you may not be a sin for me" or any other moral relativism.

Don't you EVER tire of being proven wrong??
If a 20 year old picks up a knife and throws it at his wife, he is likely to be charged at least with attempted murder. A two year old picking up the same knife and throwing it at the same person will likely not even be charged with a crime. The guilt or innocence for the same action does depend on where that person is with God and what is in that person's heart. God can always see what is in a person's heart and acts accordingly. Only justice there, God's justice:

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2
 
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are you just psychologically incapable of addressing a point, BoL?
yes, that was a quote from Scripture, and you can deny it until you die, still won't make it not a quote from Scripture bro

But whoever doubts stands condemned if he eats

implies--at least to grownups--that whoever does not doubt is not condemned, and once again sorry about your luck there.
It is actually even explained, for the hard of hearing, dunno if that is still in DRB or not tho.

I don't understand why you just don't abandon the Bible, and follow your heart, rather than trying to pretend you are a Christian, isn't exactly like they are on the upswing or anything lol. peace

implies--at least to grownups--that whoever does not doubt is not condemned, and once again sorry about your luck there.
It is actually even explained, for the hard of hearing, dunno if that is still in DRB or not tho.

I don't understand why you just don't abandon the Bible, and follow your heart, rather than trying to pretend you are a Christian, isn't exactly like they are on the upswing or anything lol. peace
Apparently, you didn't understand what Paul was saying in Rom. 14:23. this is the danger of cherry-picking verses.

YOU stated earlier that the phrase "a sin for you may not be a sin for me" was a "quote" from Scripture - and this is yet another falsehood that you are proliferating. Not only is this NOT a quote from Rom. 14:23 - this verse has NOTHING to do with the sentiment of this comment.

Paul emphatically states that the one who DOUBTS is condemned - so the 2 people aren't doing the "same" thing.

Peter wrote about people like YOU are confused by Paul's letters:
2 Pet. 3:16
There are some things in them (Paul's letters) that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
 

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If a 20 year old picks up a knife and throws it at his wife, he is likely to charged at least with attempted murder. A two year old picking up the same knife and throwing it at the same person will likely not even be charged with a crime. The guilt or innocence for the same action does depend on where that person is with God and what is in that person's heart. God can always see what is in a person's heart and acts accordingly. Only justice there, God's justice:

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2
If a person picks up a knife in anger and throws it at somebody - they are NOT doing the "same" thing as somebody who accidentally throws a knife in another person's direction

Without the same intent - it its NOT the same action.
Punching your wife in the face in anger is NOT the same thing as accidentally hitting her in the fact while trying to save her from falling off a cliff.

It's silly for you to think that it is . . .
 
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k, just puttin you back on functional ignore, where you belong too buddy. hope you get some help soon
Doesn't matter.
I will still expose lies against the Catholic Church when I see'em.
 

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If a person picks up a knife in anger and throws it at somebody - they are NOT doing the "same" thing as somebody who accidentally throws a knife in another person's direction

Without the same intent - it its NOT the same action.
Punching your wife in the face in anger is NOT the same thing as accidentally hitting her in the fact while trying to save her from falling off a cliff.

It's silly for you to think that it is . . .
A two year can be angry and can react in a wrong way. It does not have to be an accidental thing. The child may not realize or appreciate the danger, but this does not mean that the child's intention was not evil. It means that an adult would or should overlook it and try to teach the child to better.

People are in different places in their walk with God or their lack thereof. God knows all of these things and as well as every little shade of meaning and purpose in each of us and He always acts or reacts fairly based on complete and accurate knowledge. This is not really the moral relativism of which you speak. Such moral relativism would be a carnal man thing.

Men do not know all things. Not even one individual knows everything about himself. Some of what men think they know is erroneous.

God, on the other hand, knows everything about everyone of us. His judgments are in accord with that knowledge and therefore are not always precisely the same for situations our carnal minds might deem to be the same. Unlike the judgments of men, God's judgments are always completely fair.
 
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Doesn't matter.
I will still expose lies against the Catholic Church when I see'em.
And the eyes to see require that special eyesalve [Rev 3:18] where would you get them? But should it not such eyes be seeing rather how to to avoid the things opposed to God rather than to any church?

But...

If your church is really what you say it is, should you not be working as Jesus did to assure that it is doing all that it should be doing to follow God's will. Jesus had no church per se as you would probably define a church, but he did work to keep the temple as it should be kept. Oh you might want to leave that to the appropriate hierarchy. Well there were priests and levites to see to the temple, but when Jesus saw that they were failing to do their job properly he did not hesitate.
 

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A two year can be angry and can react in a wrong way. It does not have to be an accidental thing. The child may not realize or appreciate the danger, but this does not mean that the child's intention was not evil. It means that an adult would or should overlook it and try to teach the child to better.

People are in different places in their walk with God or their lack thereof. God knows all of these things and as well as every little shade of meaning and purpose in each of us and He always acts or reacts fairly based on complete and accurate knowledge. This is not really the moral relativism of which you speak. Such moral relativism would be a carnal man thing.

Men do not know all things. Not even one individual knows everything about himself. Some of what men think they know is erroneous.

God, on the other hand, knows everything about everyone of us. His judgments are in accord with that knowledge and therefore are not always precisely the same for situations our carnal minds might deem to be the same. Unlike the judgments of men, God's judgments are always completely fair.
An infant doesn't have the moral capacity to sin, nor do they have control of their facultie..
To imply that they do is silly.
 

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To be a bully, one must be stronger than the victim.
Are you saying that because we Catholics have a stronger case, that I am a "bully"??

Thanks.
No, you religion has no case, but God has the strongest case against mens religions including yours.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
Rev 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

mens religion teh greatest abomination ever created.

Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

that is why all mens religions are guilty of child and other abuses all from teh same mother.

besides bol, how can anyone take you seriously when you cant even undestand basic english, " I am exposing your lies thererore you are all liars", even a three year old can understand that.

Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

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