Grailhunter
Well-Known Member
There are a lot of people here that have read the Bible. There maybe scriptures they do not like or scriptures they do not understand. But most know the scriptures and the ones that do not like certain scripture or have cherry picked the scriptures to formulate their beliefs, they play a shell game here, and even with themselves. "I will give you a scripture that proves yours wrong". LOL You might want to look at the overall theme and the Spirit of Christ.
1. Most know that the Apostles throughout the New Testament warned about sinning and the punishments for it. They were not empty warnings and they were not talking to non-Christians about sinning....LOL....because sinning does not matter if you are not a Christian....either way you are going to Hell...Ahhh!
2. Some of the misunderstandings are about saved and a perceived guarantee of Heaven. It is human nature to like guarantees. Death and taxes? Nope. Some go their whole lives and not pay taxes and God obviously can take you body and soul. There is only one guarantee for humans in this reality. That is, once you are saved, you belong to Christ. There is no such thing as unsaved or not becoming a Christian or loosing your Christianity. That is the wrong way to look at it! Christ redeemed us....that means He paid for us. Once we become a Christian, we belong to Christ and no one can take us from Him. But some do not understand that in the end, He can judge us to Heaven or judge us to Hell. Those that do not believe in Him are already judged.
3 You can chase your tails throwing scriptures at each other....But the overall concept for Christians is be good and do good. The whole New Testament is full of what happens if you are not good and Christ explained in detail what happen to you if you do not do good for one another. If you understand the scriptures and understand the Spirit of Christ you will understand the overall meaning. Pray for those that spend their lives having to deny half of the New Testament to believe what they believe. Every time they open the Bible it is a slap in the face....even if it is just them and the Bible, they find themselves arguing with the Bible. Or only looking at the scriptures that they like.
4. The bottom line, there is nothing in the Bible that would suggest sinning is tenet of faith for Christianity.
Nothing in the Bible that would suggest that Christ was crucified for our sins....so we could go on sinning! Nothing in the Bible that would suggest tolerance to sin. Nothing in the Bible that embraces evil. Nothing in the Bible that suggest that Christ will be handing out free pass on Judgment Day to Christians. All will be judged on what they have done. Nothing in the Bible to suggest that sinful Christians and evil people will fill Heaven.... there is a place for that and it is called Hell. And the New Testament speaks against any of this OSAS trash.
5. The desire for guarantees and fear push people to heresies like OSAS and Jehovah's Witnesses. It is not that they cannot read....they are picking and choosing what to believe. Fear is a strong motivator. But there is no reason for it in Christianity, if you embrace morality you are good to go. If you do not embrace morality, pack the barbeque sauce, cauz ya going to need it. No reason for all this, salvation is secure. Forgiveness is ours! If you are honest and truthful with Christ and honestly try to be as good as you can....and that is most of us.... Forgiveness and Heaven is ours. If you are thinking that Christianity is not a religion of morals and you are going to be defiant and rebellious and do whatever you want....Judgment Day will be a horror for you and you will sing to eternity your screams of agony.
6. Be good and do good....if you are a Christian and want to go to Heaven....But do whatever you want if you want to go to Hell. Christ has no use for a relationship with evil, He will tell you that he never knew you.
Be good and do good....honestly do the best you can...Could this plan of salvation be about raising the bar so high that most could not reach it.....That would be more like the Mosaic Law. God so loved the world....this plan of salvation was designed to have a high success rate. Why would God's Son be nailed to the cross for anything less? Salvation is secure....Be good and do good. Love God and one another.
Be good and do good.
1. Most know that the Apostles throughout the New Testament warned about sinning and the punishments for it. They were not empty warnings and they were not talking to non-Christians about sinning....LOL....because sinning does not matter if you are not a Christian....either way you are going to Hell...Ahhh!
2. Some of the misunderstandings are about saved and a perceived guarantee of Heaven. It is human nature to like guarantees. Death and taxes? Nope. Some go their whole lives and not pay taxes and God obviously can take you body and soul. There is only one guarantee for humans in this reality. That is, once you are saved, you belong to Christ. There is no such thing as unsaved or not becoming a Christian or loosing your Christianity. That is the wrong way to look at it! Christ redeemed us....that means He paid for us. Once we become a Christian, we belong to Christ and no one can take us from Him. But some do not understand that in the end, He can judge us to Heaven or judge us to Hell. Those that do not believe in Him are already judged.
3 You can chase your tails throwing scriptures at each other....But the overall concept for Christians is be good and do good. The whole New Testament is full of what happens if you are not good and Christ explained in detail what happen to you if you do not do good for one another. If you understand the scriptures and understand the Spirit of Christ you will understand the overall meaning. Pray for those that spend their lives having to deny half of the New Testament to believe what they believe. Every time they open the Bible it is a slap in the face....even if it is just them and the Bible, they find themselves arguing with the Bible. Or only looking at the scriptures that they like.
4. The bottom line, there is nothing in the Bible that would suggest sinning is tenet of faith for Christianity.
Nothing in the Bible that would suggest that Christ was crucified for our sins....so we could go on sinning! Nothing in the Bible that would suggest tolerance to sin. Nothing in the Bible that embraces evil. Nothing in the Bible that suggest that Christ will be handing out free pass on Judgment Day to Christians. All will be judged on what they have done. Nothing in the Bible to suggest that sinful Christians and evil people will fill Heaven.... there is a place for that and it is called Hell. And the New Testament speaks against any of this OSAS trash.
5. The desire for guarantees and fear push people to heresies like OSAS and Jehovah's Witnesses. It is not that they cannot read....they are picking and choosing what to believe. Fear is a strong motivator. But there is no reason for it in Christianity, if you embrace morality you are good to go. If you do not embrace morality, pack the barbeque sauce, cauz ya going to need it. No reason for all this, salvation is secure. Forgiveness is ours! If you are honest and truthful with Christ and honestly try to be as good as you can....and that is most of us.... Forgiveness and Heaven is ours. If you are thinking that Christianity is not a religion of morals and you are going to be defiant and rebellious and do whatever you want....Judgment Day will be a horror for you and you will sing to eternity your screams of agony.
6. Be good and do good....if you are a Christian and want to go to Heaven....But do whatever you want if you want to go to Hell. Christ has no use for a relationship with evil, He will tell you that he never knew you.
Be good and do good....honestly do the best you can...Could this plan of salvation be about raising the bar so high that most could not reach it.....That would be more like the Mosaic Law. God so loved the world....this plan of salvation was designed to have a high success rate. Why would God's Son be nailed to the cross for anything less? Salvation is secure....Be good and do good. Love God and one another.
Be good and do good.
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