Collosians 1:15-16

[Keiw]

Its a depiction of what we call the "Generative Principle" or "Genesis". It is the beggining of creation and the beggining of all new life. It is known as the womb of God. It is also seen in the womb of a female human and how a baby growns in her tummy. This scripture is not exclusive to any given situation, rather it is describing a principle that consists within the laws of nature.

Both views are allegoricaly correct but if you can't see beyond that one view your perception is narrow minded and bounded by intelect. Your pride will own you, and you will end up debating amongst other people with the same condition. All to no avail.

i know what the bible teaches very well.

 

[Jack]

How could he not preexist since his God and Father created all other things through him? At the beginning?

Is there any Scripture that Kingdom Hall doesn't twist?

Peter said to Jesus:
John 21
17, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You."

ONLY God knows all things.

 

[Jack]

i know what the bible teaches very well.

Were you taught by Kingdom Hall?

 

[Jack]

I know what it says. I know it doesnt contradict itself. Twisting what was said causes contradiction. Like at John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ.-- So by ones teaching a trinity is actually calling Jesus a liar. He is 100% clear--The Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

You're actually saying the NWT and Kingdom Hall are wrong? Good for you!

NWT John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God".

 

[face2face]

How could he not preexist since his God and Father created all other things through him? At the beginning?

You dont understand how God created all things for him, on behalf of him and through him - i.e Christ was the central purpose for this entire creation.

 

[Keiw]

Is there any Scripture that Kingdom Hall doesn't twist?

Peter said to Jesus:
John 21
17, "Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You."

ONLY God knows all things.

You twisting it. God taught Jesus everything he spoke John 5:19,30

 

[Keiw]

Were you taught by Kingdom Hall?

I was taught by these-Matt 24:45--the ones Jesus appointed over his belongings.

 

[Keiw]

You're actually saying the NWT and Kingdom Hall are wrong? Good for you!

NWT John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God".

Prove Thomas didn't look to heaven when he said my God. Psalm 45:7--Every Israelite on earth knew the Messiah has a God, thus is not God. Proves he did look to heaven when he said my God. Because its 100% fact--God does not have a God. That would make more than 1 God.

 

[Keiw]

You dont understand how God created all things for him, on behalf of him and through him - i.e Christ was the central purpose for this entire creation.

0 doubt in all creation--Jesus is Gods master worker of Prov 8-he describes God creating all things.

 

[Jack]

You twisting it. God taught Jesus everything he spoke John 5:19,30

I quoted God. You didn't. See the difference?

 

[Jack]

I was taught by these-Matt 24:45--the ones Jesus appointed over his belongings.

Do you need Kingdom Hall's permission to answer simple questions???

Were you taught by Kingdom Hall?

 

[Jack]

Prove Thomas didn't look to heaven when he said my God. Psalm 45:7--Every Israelite on earth knew the Messiah has a God, thus is not God. Proves he did look to heaven when he said my God. Because its 100% fact--God does not have a God. That would make more than 1 God.

NWT John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God".

Check this out: Question For JW's

 

[Jack]

0 doubt in all creation--Jesus is Gods master worker of Prov 8-he describes God creating all things.

Why don't you quote Scripture instead of Kingdom Hall doctrine?

 

[face2face]

0 doubt in all creation--Jesus is Gods master worker of Prov 8-he describes God creating all things.

That is Yahwehs works the Only true God.

 

[Keiw]

I quoted God. You didn't. See the difference?

I see scriptures in my post, none in yours.

 

[Keiw]

Do you need Kingdom Hall's permission to answer simple questions???

Were you taught by Kingdom Hall?

A kingdom hall is a building.

 

[Keiw]

NWT John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God".

Check this out: Question For JW's

Thus you throw away the truth Jesus spoke to believe your twisting of a scripture.

 

[Keiw]

Why don't you quote Scripture instead of Kingdom Hall doctrine?

That is sad Jack. If you don't know that the one whom God created all other things through is Jesus, is Gods master worker, means you don't know him nor know the Father thus fail Jesus at John 17:3--Its not them failing you its vica versa.

 

[Keiw]

That is Yahwehs works the Only true God.

Yes YHWH( Jehovah) = the Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

 

[Zachariah]

Why don't you quote Scripture instead of Kingdom Hall doctrine?

Quoting scripture does in no case mean you understand its Truth.