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  1. Behold

    Behold Well-Known Member

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    Coming into the LIGHT..... is to go from wrong believing to right believing.

    Is to go from walking in the flesh to walking in the Spirit.
    Is to go from a failed Christian discipleship of "confessing and repenting", to , entering into perfection described by Paul as : "the fullness of the stature of Christ.".
    Now, all believers, all the born again, are being transformed INTO the Image of Christ, and that final transformation is God created and the end result occurs when you get your new body.
    However, "the fullness of the stature of Christ, is where we the born again are supposed to become and exits WITHIN.= while we are on the earth. And until you do, you are not completed in your spiritual understanding regarding your relationship to God or your eternal position or state, as we are found ..IN God..."In Christ.

    To become fully developed, spiritually, is not to become a better behaving Christian, but its to become a fully faith realized Christian.
    Your NT says that you can only please God by FAITH. And most of you think that you please God or not, by your behavior.
    So, understand this first....your lifestyle that is somewhat better then it was when you loved sin, is still not that good, and is nothing as compared to Jesus's lifestyle.
    If you are a born person who has gotten rid of most of your bad habits, and for the most part live a clean life, your life as compared to the sinless Son of God, on your best day, is still a filthy dirty rag. So, never believe that your "good life", or your trying to be good is anything like the HOLY Life that Jesus lived regarding SINLESSNESS.
    So, the way you truly please God, is by getting your FAITH and Belief System and Theology PERFECT, as this is your FAITH, and until you have this perfected you are not pleasing God as you should.

    Why are most Christians, a sinning confessing mess?
    its really just one reason...
    Most do not understand that God has removed all your sin from you, including those you commit today.... Iin other words, they are all under the Blood, they are all already forgiven, before you do them, and most of you dont realize this, have not been taught this, and will find this hard to BELIEVE because you want to take credit for what God has done for you. And that is why you believe that when you confess and repent, you are achieving by this baby Christian behavior what the blood of Jesus has already resolved 2000 yrs ago for you, on the Cross.
    And until you understand this and believe it, you will not be able to exist in the peace of God or rest totally in the Grace of God and thereby find your VICTORY over sin, thru the Power of Christ's redemption.

    So, why are most of you not able to live a holy life free of repenting and confessing?
    Its because you have believed the Devil's lie, and this lie has become your faith, and that has ruined your walk with God, while you don't realize this..
    So, what is the Devil's lie that you believe that is become your faith, that is the reason most of you can't live holy all the time?
    Its this..
    "Your sins from the time you first sinned until the day you were saved, are all forgiven, but not any sin after that. In other words, you were lied to and have believed that The blood of Jesus does not pay for, cover, pardon, and redeem you from, ALL the sin you committed after you were saved, and that includes those you might do today and next week.

    You have never asked yourself ..."WHY did God save me when HE KNEW i would sin later, after He saved me".
    So why did He?
    Because God knows that His Blood that He Shed on THE CROSS, will take care of all your sin, included those you did the week after you were saved, and the ones you committed this week, and next.
    So, you have to come into the right Believing that God has already resolved your sin issue on The Cross 2000 Yrs ago, or you will never be free from sinning and confessing and condemnation.

    You have been deceived into thinking that its ONLY the sin that you committed up to the day the Cross came into your Life, that God has resolved, and all sin after that day is on YOU to resolve by confessing and repenting.
    = The DEVIL's LIE.
    That is what you believe and that is your faith, and that is why you have no power to stop sinning.
    How do you escape that deception?
    You have to learn how to believe RIGHT about the Blood Atonement.
    You have to stop the wrong believing that the Cross only solved your sins of the past and does not resolve all your sins, forever.
    If you can change your wrong faith into THAT Believing, you will find the Grace of God that will allow you to rest from striving to live right and actually empower you to be able to do it.

    Look at this verse....

    Romans 8:1 """There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."""
    This verse gives you a choice, Saint.
    Listen carefully....
    1. Walk in the flesh and you will sin, and be condemned.
    2. There is NO CONDEMNATiON if you walk in the Spirit.
    Notice that this is not talking about sinning or not.
    Its explaining to you, that your walk of FAITH.....the way you BELIEVE, is what keeps you condemned, (sinning and repenting) or delivers you from it = "Walking in the Spirit".
    So, if you believe wrong about the blood Atonement....If you believe it is limited and not eternal then you are in the flesh and you will try to resolve your sin by will and self effort and you will fail and you will sin more and you will not understand why you can't stop.
    OR,-
    You can "walk in the Spirit", (what im Teaching you) and this will resolve your "Flesh" issue and your sinning and confesson habit, and you will have NO CONDEMNATiON.
    So, you are one or the other.. its all up to you and how you BELIEVE.
    If You are a sinning and confessing fail, its because you believe wrong, or.. you are the "there is no condemnation" believer who is believing RIGHT and walking in the Spirit.

    To walk in the Spirit, is to have the right MIND. The right MIND is the "mind of Christ"... and to have THAT, is to believe right about the Eternal effect of Blood Of Jesus.
    As long as you keep believing that only your sin that you committed prior to the day of your salvation is covered by the Blood and not all of your sin, always and forever, you will continue to live deceived regarding real Faith, and will keep failing to Live Holy, and of course the condemnation and the confessing and repenting will continue that prove you are believing wrong.

    You have to master the understanding of 2 verses, asap.

    1.) Hebrews 13: 9

    And this never verse....... but let me show you something first...
    Jesus didnt come to die on The Cross to make bad people good.
    He came to make dead people ALIVE.
    "Your were dead in tresspasses and sin"... .and now you are BORN AGAIN = with the Life of Christ as your "new Creation" "IN CHRIT< = which is YOU and Christ and God, "as ONE", Spirit.

    Now, Believe this verse, Saint.. Don't just read it..... BELIEVE IT.

    = Colossians 2:13...""and you, (the born again) being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath God quickened together with Him, having forgiven you ALL trespasses""
    Notice ..... = "God having forgiven you ALL YOUR TRESPASSES".
    That is ALL YOUR SIN.
    How much is ALL ?
    How.....much......is .......ALL ?????
    Its all of them.....every one..........all forgiven. = ALL SIN forgiven.
    Yesterdays, todays, tomrrows, ..= ALL.
    God's ALL, is not "some", as many of you wrongly believe.


    So, until you believe this, = "ALL" Sin FORGIVEN... you will try to take care of them yourself (Walking in the FLESH) = by confessing and repenting, and that will keep you doing it and never will you come to the fullness of FAITH and understanding that will FREE YOU from living a failed Christian Discipleship.
     
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    Not saying you're wrong; but what do you make of the following verses?

    Rom 3:25, Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

    Pe 1:9, But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.


    To not walk in the Spirit is to walk in the flesh; and to walk in the flesh is to sin.

    So it is talking about sinning or not.

    While the focus ought not to be on whether I am sinning or not but on abiding in God's word so that I am "washed with the water of the word..." (Ephesians 5:26).

    Really, if we sin, the only remedy is confession. 1 John 1:9.

    To confess your sins is not walking in the flesh. For God promises that He is faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness when you confess your sins. And the Lord does not reward us with good promises for walking in the flesh.
     
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    “for the remission of sins that are past...”

    Question. of sins ...past
    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    If all things are passed away ...past. Then why would there need to be: for the remission of future sins of the new creature? How complete is “behold, all things are new.” in that He said “for the remission of sins that are past...”
     
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    Hello Gnosticism. o_O
     
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    Heb_11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    but men would rather "try" impress God by there behavior.

    only man who ever impressed Jesus

    Mat 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
     
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    Amen
     
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    But better behaviour follows-would you say?
     
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    Agree
     
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    1 John 2:6
    He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
     
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    ‘This is My beloved Son, in whom I AM well pleased’
     
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    No no no
     
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    Deliverance??
     
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    Too much
     
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    Now, you don't have a problem with the blood of Jesus Christ....do you?

    This is what we're redeemed by...the devil hates the blood of Jesus because of this...

    Certainly not you?
     
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    It's not about behaviour it's about behaviour! You gotta love these threads based on human reasoning! ;)
     
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    Nope, it’s the under the blood ‘excuse’ that I object to, while continuing to practice sin..I know full well that a Christian’s sins are under the blood-atoned for, by Jesus The Christ-what else could save sinners? ‘What can make me whole again, nothing but the blood of Jesus’
     
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    Was just thinking that. We’re all professing an element of truth in our beliefs. Yet still divisive...The Lord is probably smiling to Himself over this forum (I hope)
     
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    Mark 9:
    38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”

    39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us. 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.
     
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