Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

[Keraz]

It does not say that letter was written after Elijah was taken to heaven.

Elijah prophesied during the reign of King Ahab. After he was taken away by God, he wrote to King Joram, who had married Ahabs daughter. 2 Chronicles 21:6 This proves that Elijah never actually went to live in heaven.

It does not say Philip was taken heaven.

I do not say Philip went to heaven, either. He was transported to Azotus; Acts 8:39-40

You are simply contradicting the Words of Jesus to say anyone goes to live in heaven.
I repeat: the idea of a 'rapture to heaven' is a Satanic lie and all who have believed it are sadly deceived.

 

[Dave L]

The main sign for the end of the world (Jesus return and the rapture) is the Internet and travel.

“But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” (Daniel 12:4) (KJV 1900)

 

[Mayflower]

The main sign for the end of the world (Jesus return and the rapture) is the Internet and travel.

“But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” (Daniel 12:4) (KJV 1900)

Why travel?

 

[Dave L]

Why travel?

I never travel.

 

[GISMYS_7]

The Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!! What kind of life would you live if you really believed the rapture is imminent and that Jesus may return very soon? Signs are==
Israel Back in the Land
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The Jews Back in Jerusalem
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The Gospel Preached Throughout the World==
An Increase in Travel and Knowledge==Israel Surrounded by Enemies==
Israel’s Exceedingly Great Army==
Rise of the Gog of Magog Alliance==Rise of a United Europe==
The Rise of Global Government==

Jesus is coming, and the signs indicate that ours is the generation that will witness His return.
The convergence of all these signs confirm it. Jesus Himself said to look for these signs, and when you see them, He said you can know His return is near. He’s right at the door (Matthew 24:33).
In fact, He said the generation witnessing these signs will not pass away before He returns (Matthew 24:34).
https://stevierayhansen.wordpress.co...n-convergence/

 

[Naomi25]

ROFL!!! Who lives on this planet and asks what signs??? Open your eyes!!!

Okay...firstly, I have eyes...they are both open and on scripture. And because of these things, I think someone who likes to post repeated threads simply saying "woo, look at the signs, it's happening!" is perhaps being sensational and nothing more.
I mean...I'm all for being excited for Christ's return. I could wish it would happen before I press send on this. But the fact should remain that any 'sign' you speak of needs to be carefully pointed out from scripture. Especially if you are claiming that these specific signs call for an imminence of his return, when in point of fact we have a plethora of passages that tell us that despite people's claims we cannot know. That, again, would suggest to me that your posts are sensationalist, rather than biblical.

 

[Taken]

The Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!! What kind of life would you live if you really believed the rapture is imminent and that Jesus may return today?

"What KIND of life"...
Spiritually, the same.
Naturally, would like to complete some works, and then shift those works to maintaining the completed works. Lol

God Bless,
Merry Christmas,
Taken

 

[Naomi25]

I didn't double check every verse on this page, so if in any doubt check it out.

END TIME SIGNS

1. False Bible teachers would be money hungry. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3)

2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

3. Earthquakes would be in diverse places (Matthew 24:7)

4. Stress would be part of living (2 Timothy 3:1)

5. Many wars would erupt (Matthew 24:6)

6. People would forsake the Ten Commandments as a moral code, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and killing (Matthew 24:12)

7. There would be a cold religious system, in denying God's power (2 Timothy 3:5)

8. Men would substitute fantasy in place of Christian truth (2 Timothy 4:4). This is so evident at Christmas when the birth of the Savior is lost behind the myth of Santa Claus.

9. Deadly diseases would be prevalent (Matthew 24:7). The worldwide increase in AIDS deaths is almost inestimable. Over 160,000 Americans die of cancer each year.

10. The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by the scientific world because of its uncanny implication.

11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)

12. There would be an increase in famines (Matthew 24:7)

13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)

14. There would be a cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

15. The possession of Jerusalem would be at the center of international turmoil (Zechariah 12:3)

16. Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4)

17. There would be hypocrites within the Church (Matthew 13:25-30)

18. There would be an increase of religious cults/false teachers (Matthew 24:11 & 24)

19. The future would seem fearful to many (Luke 21:26)

20. Humanity would become materialistic (2 Timothy 3:4)

21. There would be many involved in travel (Daniel 12:4)

22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)

23. Jesus said Christians would be hated "for His name's sake" (Matthew 24:9)

24: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.

You do realise that this list of "signs" have been with us ever since Christ left, right? And that in the Olivet Discourse he told us that these things "must take place", but we shouldn't panic.
I think the only real point you could make is that these things are increasing in frequency, as was implied would happen. The problem with then going on to say "see, this means the end is nigh!" is that Christ did not tell us how bad things were to get before he would return. Are these signs increasing? Probably. Could they increase much more before his return? Undoubtably. And that is in his hands, not in our speculations, wouldn't you agree?

 

[CoreIssue]

You do realise that this list of "signs" have been with us ever since Christ left, right? And that in the Olivet Discourse he told us that these things "must take place", but we shouldn't panic.
I think the only real point you could make is that these things are increasing in frequency, as was implied would happen. The problem with then going on to say "see, this means the end is nigh!" is that Christ did not tell us how bad things were to get before he would return. Are these signs increasing? Probably. Could they increase much more before his return? Undoubtably. And that is in his hands, not in our speculations, wouldn't you agree?

Some have some have not.

In example increasing wars has been increasing steadily since the time of Christ. There has been no time during my lifespan we have not been fighting somewhere. I was born during the Korean War.

Homosexuality has increased in my lifetime. As has the tolerance of it. It is even being legalized and celebrated now which was not before.

Earthquakes have been increasing.

Knowledge is increasing rapidly which it has never done before.

Apostasy has increased at an incredible rate in my lifetime.

Israel didn't even exist until 1948 and there's been a struggle over Jerusalem ever since,

The Gospels preached worldwide for the first time in history.

People are ridiculing the idea of the end times even in churches.

And people will be saying that all the signs of the end times have always been happening. Sound familiar?

 

[Naomi25]

Wouldn't the signs/prophecies be in the Bible, but the confirmations and fulfillment be in the news and from other present time sources?

To a certain extent, perhaps. But, I see a concerning amount of people looking at their bibles and going "aha! Wars and rumors of wars! We have those! The time is at hand!" And they don't read the context of that passage, where Christ says that these things must take place, but the time is not yet. They are but birth pangs. The world heaves to and fro in calamity and since it's creation these things have been. Especially since Christ won the victory for us we wait through this upheavel. But apart from telling us that these things will grow in intensity and persecution will increase, Christ and Paul do not give us a great deal of information about the time of Christ's return. And we must realise this is because they themselves did not know...it was not theirs TO know at that time, and thus, it is not ours to know either. We are to faithfully live in expectation, longing for that day, even not knowing when it might be.

For me, the events in Syria are very meaningful. Especially the unexpected troop withdraw Trump just announced. Creating a void for Russia to solidify and advance. And possibly Turkey to go slaughter Kurds.

Yes, this is something I've been watching with interest. Probably not with exactly the same connotations as for you, but still, one must wonder. Even thinking that we cannot know the day or hour, I believe we must still be watchful and open to what is going on.
I am not closed to the idea that my interpretation of end times is incorrect. Obviously I hold it because I don't think it is, but I know I'm not perfect, so I think it's wise for me to keep a somewhat open mind on the other views, and what they believe. And yes...the Syria situation is interesting.

The announcement of hypersonic weapons by Putin. Threats of nuclear war if we pull out of the arms treaty. Combined with recent comments by Putin that say he is not worried about nuclear war since Russians are born again they will just go to Heaven.

Seriously? Putin said that? That man thinks he walks as tall as Goliath, doesn't he? Wonder if he remembers how hard that guy fell?

Add in the aggressive moves in the Ukraine. And from what I can tell amassing tanks along that border.

The alignment of the countries, groups and powers mentioned in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

There is plenty more...

CoreIssue gave a very nice thorough list. The evidence that these signs are converging is overwhelming to me.

To each their own, but does none of this have any significance for you??

Well, like I said to CoreIssue about his list...those signs aren't really new, are they? Honestly...well...apart from the bizare vegetarianism one (where did that come from?)...those things have been here since Christ was. Wars, famines, earthquakes, diseases, immorality....these are not new to the world. And this was Christ's point in the Olivet Discourse. We shouldn't let these things disturb or sway us. We must be strong in the face of them.
I think the signs that Christ gave in that Discourse that are really "it's here!" are more the 'heavens are shaken, stars falling, sun is blackened" sort of things, and those things could all happen within minutes of the great event itself.

As for significance...well, yes, I suppose they do have significance for me. Travail reminds me that the world is broken, just as Christ said it was, but that he is still holding it. And that as each contraction becomes stronger, I may know his return is ever closer. That gives me hope and excitment.

 

[Heb 13:8]

What signs? And what biblical proof do you extend to show that these events tell us the time is now?

Gen 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,

Luke 21 There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves. 26Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.b 28When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

Rev 12 And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed in the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and crying out in the pain and agony of giving birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: a huge red dragon with seven heads, ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman as she was about to give birth, ready to devour her child as soon as He was born. 5And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter;a and her child was caught up to God and to His throne

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...0j0i8i30j0i22i30j33i299j0i8i13i30.x_EbW-K9hwk

https://www.google.com/search?ei=KI...5......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.FsBSXlvfo1Y

https://www.google.com/search?ei=DY.......1..gws-wiz.......0j0i71j0i131.uWptGgRJXQQ

https://www.google.com/search?ei=Xo.....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i304i39.aBNslsw-160

https://www.google.com/search?ei=bI...2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.xPS0-T40Glg

 

[Naomi25]

Some have some have not.

In example increasing wars has been increasing steadily since the time of Christ. There has been no time during my lifespan we have not been fighting somewhere. I was born during the Korean War.

Homosexuality has increased in my lifetime. As has the tolerance of it. It is even being legalized and celebrated now which was not before.

Earthquakes have been increasing.

Knowledge is increasing rapidly which it has never done before.

Apostasy has increased at an incredible rate in my lifetime.

Israel didn't even exist until 1948 and there's been a struggle over Jerusalem ever since,

The Gospels preached worldwide for the first time in history.

People are ridiculing the idea of the end times even in churches.

Ah...yeah? My point was that these things would increase as we went along.
But, you cannot say that these things were not present back then, because they were. And you cannot say that there will be a 'tipping point' at which Christ will return...a point that scripture labels that will be 'bad enough' that at last Christ can return.
So, the notion that these signs can, of themselves, pinpoint for us when his return is at the door, is just inaccurate.

And people will be saying that all the signs of the end times have always been happening. Sound familiar?

Because they have. Can you historically show a time when wars, famines, earthquakes, diseases or false teachers did not exist? You cannot, because they have.
I am not saying that because they have always existed that they have no bearing on end times, I am simply saying that we see by their increasing nature that the day is growing late.
But by that same token, we cannot use these signs to make a claim of when Christ will return, simply because 1: they have always been here, and 2: Christ doesn't tell us how bad they will get until his return will stop them.
I think if we must be talking about other signs that perhaps signal the closing of the age, we can do better than these ones.

 

[Naomi25]

Gen 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,

Luke 21 There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves. 26Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.b 28When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

Rev 12 And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed in the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and crying out in the pain and agony of giving birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: a huge red dragon with seven heads, ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman as she was about to give birth, ready to devour her child as soon as He was born. 5And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter;a and her child was caught up to God and to His throne

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...0j0i8i30j0i22i30j33i299j0i8i13i30.x_EbW-K9hwk

https://www.google.com/search?ei=KI...5......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.FsBSXlvfo1Y

https://www.google.com/search?ei=DY.......1..gws-wiz.......0j0i71j0i131.uWptGgRJXQQ

https://www.google.com/search?ei=XocdXLusG8uk_Qb04If4Cw&q=super+blood+moon+1/20/19&oq=super+blood+moon+1/20/19&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39l2.12380.13344..13560...0.0..0.96.453.6......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i304i39.aBNslsw-160

https://www.google.com/search?ei=bI...2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.xPS0-T40Glg

I'm sorry, but haven't those who believed in the blood moons and the 'great sign' last year been resoundingly proved to be wrong? As in...nothing happened? There is only so many times that people who stand up and say "it's going to happen then"..."no...then"..."whoops, then"...can be taken seriously.

And with the Luke 21 reference...it quite clearly says that when there are signs in the heavens, people will be quaking with fear. No one quaked with fear last September, or at any of the blood moons or eclipses. People watched and perhaps commented, but quaking in fear and fainting in distress? This is language of Christ's actual return, the moment when they will have to face the King of the world, when creation itself moves out of the way. You cannot say that these 'signs' you've linked to above have had any particular biblical references.

 

[farouk]

To a certain extent, perhaps. But, I see a concerning amount of people looking at their bibles and going "aha! Wars and rumors of wars! We have those! The time is at hand!" And they don't read the context of that passage, where Christ says that these things must take place, but the time is not yet. They are but birth pangs. The world heaves to and fro in calamity and since it's creation these things have been. Especially since Christ won the victory for us we wait through this upheavel. But apart from telling us that these things will grow in intensity and persecution will increase, Christ and Paul do not give us a great deal of information about the time of Christ's return. And we must realise this is because they themselves did not know...it was not theirs TO know at that time, and thus, it is not ours to know either. We are to faithfully live in expectation, longing for that day, even not knowing when it might be.



Yes, this is something I've been watching with interest. Probably not with exactly the same connotations as for you, but still, one must wonder. Even thinking that we cannot know the day or hour, I believe we must still be watchful and open to what is going on.
I am not closed to the idea that my interpretation of end times is incorrect. Obviously I hold it because I don't think it is, but I know I'm not perfect, so I think it's wise for me to keep a somewhat open mind on the other views, and what they believe. And yes...the Syria situation is interesting.



Seriously? Putin said that? That man thinks he walks as tall as Goliath, doesn't he? Wonder if he remembers how hard that guy fell?



Well, like I said to CoreIssue about his list...those signs aren't really new, are they? Honestly...well...apart from the bizare vegetarianism one (where did that come from?)...those things have been here since Christ was. Wars, famines, earthquakes, diseases, immorality....these are not new to the world. And this was Christ's point in the Olivet Discourse. We shouldn't let these things disturb or sway us. We must be strong in the face of them.
I think the signs that Christ gave in that Discourse that are really "it's here!" are more the 'heavens are shaken, stars falling, sun is blackened" sort of things, and those things could all happen within minutes of the great event itself.

As for significance...well, yes, I suppose they do have significance for me. Travail reminds me that the world is broken, just as Christ said it was, but that he is still holding it. And that as each contraction becomes stronger, I may know his return is ever closer. That gives me hope and excitment.

We need in any case to keep 'looking unto Jesus (Hebrews 12.2), not for signs and wonders...

 

[Heb 13:8]

I'm sorry, but haven't those who believed in the blood moons and the 'great sign' last year been resoundingly proved to be wrong? As in...nothing happened? There is only so many times that people who stand up and say "it's going to happen then"..."no...then"..."whoops, then"...can be taken seriously.

And with the Luke 21 reference...it quite clearly says that when there are signs in the heavens, people will be quaking with fear. No one quaked with fear last September, or at any of the blood moons or eclipses. People watched and perhaps commented, but quaking in fear and fainting in distress? This is language of Christ's actual return, the moment when they will have to face the King of the world, when creation itself moves out of the way. You cannot say that these 'signs' you've linked to above have had any particular biblical references.

Nothing happened to those living in a bubble Naomi. ISIS appeared out of nowhere, ISIS be-headings, international economies are collapsing, riots are increasing, churches are closing, earthquakes are increasing, disease and pestilence are increasing especially in foods, volcano in Hawaii, volcano's are erupting more, the list goes on......

We are the generation in Matt 24, we are in that time frame, 1948 + 70 = 2018, Psa 90:10, be in 80 years, 2021-2028. Jesus is at the door.

 

[Harvest 1874]

To a certain extent, perhaps. But, I see a concerning amount of people looking at their bibles and going "aha! Wars and rumors of wars! We have those! The time is at hand!" And they don't read the context of that passage, where Christ says that these things must take place, but the time is not yet. They are but birth pangs. The world heaves to and fro in calamity and since it's creation these things have been. Especially since Christ won the victory for us we wait through this upheavel. But apart from telling us that these things will grow in intensity and persecution will increase, Christ and Paul do not give us a great deal of information about the time of Christ's return. And we must realise this is because they themselves did not know...it was not theirs TO know at that time, and thus, it is not ours to know either. We are to faithfully live in expectation, longing for that day, even not knowing when it might be.



Yes, this is something I've been watching with interest. Probably not with exactly the same connotations as for you, but still, one must wonder. Even thinking that we cannot know the day or hour, I believe we must still be watchful and open to what is going on.
I am not closed to the idea that my interpretation of end times is incorrect. Obviously I hold it because I don't think it is, but I know I'm not perfect, so I think it's wise for me to keep a somewhat open mind on the other views, and what they believe. And yes...the Syria situation is interesting.



Seriously? Putin said that? That man thinks he walks as tall as Goliath, doesn't he? Wonder if he remembers how hard that guy fell?



Well, like I said to CoreIssue about his list...those signs aren't really new, are they? Honestly...well...apart from the bizare vegetarianism one (where did that come from?)...those things have been here since Christ was. Wars, famines, earthquakes, diseases, immorality....these are not new to the world. And this was Christ's point in the Olivet Discourse. We shouldn't let these things disturb or sway us. We must be strong in the face of them.
I think the signs that Christ gave in that Discourse that are really "it's here!" are more the 'heavens are shaken, stars falling, sun is blackened" sort of things, and those things could all happen within minutes of the great event itself.

As for significance...well, yes, I suppose they do have significance for me. Travail reminds me that the world is broken, just as Christ said it was, but that he is still holding it. And that as each contraction becomes stronger, I may know his return is ever closer. That gives me hope and excitment.

Although we agree with much of what you have stated in regards to many of these “signs” having been with us all throughout the age, we must disagree with your statement viz.

“Christ and Paul do not give us a great deal of information about the time of our Lord’s return”

Actually the scriptures are full of this information; one need only have their eyes open to see it. The Apostle Peter gives us the clue as to where we are to be looking, not to the sky, but to the more sure word of prophecy (2 Pet 2:19), which you would do well to take heed as a light shining in a dark place (this present world). Unfortunately most are either ignorant or simply not interested enough to make the effort to study prophecy, to their own loss.

Yes it’s true that they (our Lord and the Apostles) did not know of the time of the his return then, for it was not the “due time” for its disclosure, the book (the divine testimony concerning this as well as many other events recorded in prophecy) having been concealed, sealed up until the “time of the end” (Dan 12:9), and then only to be reveal to the wise, not the wise in worldly wisdom and understanding, in the teachings of men and the professed church, but the wise in spiritual understanding, in the truth of God’s word, those begotten of the Lord’s spirit who are awake and who are looking, looking to more sure word of prophecy that that day, the parousia (presence) of the Lord should not take them unawares, as a thief in the night.

Unfortunately even as the nominal fleshly house felled in the day of their visitation (Luke 19:44) so too the nominal spiritual house is felling in the day of their visitation, both stumble over the same thing a failure to rightly understand both the object (the purpose), and the manner of the Lord’s two advents.

 

[CoreIssue]

Ah...yeah? My point was that these things would increase as we went along.
But, you cannot say that these things were not present back then, because they were. And you cannot say that there will be a 'tipping point' at which Christ will return...a point that scripture labels that will be 'bad enough' that at last Christ can return.
So, the notion that these signs can, of themselves, pinpoint for us when his return is at the door, is just inaccurate.



Because they have. Can you historically show a time when wars, famines, earthquakes, diseases or false teachers did not exist? You cannot, because they have.
I am not saying that because they have always existed that they have no bearing on end times, I am simply saying that we see by their increasing nature that the day is growing late.
But by that same token, we cannot use these signs to make a claim of when Christ will return, simply because 1: they have always been here, and 2: Christ doesn't tell us how bad they will get until his return will stop them.
I think if we must be talking about other signs that perhaps signal the closing of the age, we can do better than these ones.

I already showed you that's not true.

From 70 A.D. to 1948 Israel did not exist.

In vast increases in knowledge began in the 20th century.

The gospel was not preached throughout the world until the 1900s.

Homosexuality being accepted nationally and legalized is even more recent.

 

[Blueberry]

To a certain extent, perhaps. ... birth pangs ... We are to faithfully live in expectation, longing for that day, even not knowing when it might be.

I can appreciate this. The general times and season. That's the overall general sense that I get.

I made a bit of a 'call' on the now defunct Rapture Ready forum a little over a year ago. I was working on a theory and the night of the Las Vegas shooting, I felt compelled to post it unfinished. Going with the often quoted "birth pang" thing every time almost any thing of any significance happened, I extrapolated that out a little bit.

Being a man and not even a father, I do not swear by this, but are not birth pangs a single significant event than then dissipate and then return in greater magnitude and then abate... lather, rinse, repeat. And do they not start to occur with less and less time in between?

Now on that website was a gentleman who lives in California and was threatened by those fires in early 2017. Record fires. Then came other records. A big quake in Mexico City. Then I was affected by hurricane Harvey, another record. I began to see this as a 'season of records' and possible the first actually discernable true birth pang? Then the record shooting occurred and I posted this developing theory later that evening. The Texas church shooting follow this declaration by about a month. 2017 was a record breaking year for the most $Billion dollar disasters.

But in that post I also suggested that if my theory was correct then what we would see would be an eventual settling down of these records at some future (at that time ) point. And that if that happened, then when would an experience a lull only to be greeted by yet a worse second distinguishable birth pang at some point later!

And that if birth pangs do come closer to one another then once the second one started and finished then we would know that a third one will be coming even sooner and will be even worse. This until Ezekiel 38/39, Isaiah 17, Proverbs 83, the Rapture, you name it.

So that period of records did quiet down. Sometime early in 2018.

Not that this year hasn't had it tragedies. But nothing like that period that lasted most of last year. So my question would be to mothers is if the period in between birth pangs goes back to normal or is it just better than being in a birth pang? You know what I mean? It is back to level ground or just a valley that is better than the previous or next birth pang?

I just read a news headline that said Trump said to Erdogan in a phone call that "You know what? Its yours!" in reference to Syria. This stock market is looking really bad right now. Could we be on the verge of another distinguishable birth pang? Again, mothers, birth pangs are distinguishable, right!?

If so, it could mean a period even worse that the fat part of 2017! Which was just downright awful. Another question for the mothers, do the subsequent birth pang also last longer or are they the same or are they perhaps shorter but more intense? I know that they are more intense.

I could be all wrong about this and hope that I am. But this random pattern of Old Lady McDonald's 'birth pang here and a birth pang there' doesn't seem to fit the pattern of actual birth pangs. So if this correct, we should fasten our seats. Do what we have to do and do it quickly. Gather in some supplies of whatever works for you.

Me... I am literally heading for the hills. But this was already a consideration for me personally and only one of the two forks that I might have taken. Was indecisive until this week. I am serious though about making amends with people or whatever sort of 'business' that anyone needs to do in the present life. That, though, is always a good idea.

Seriously? Putin said that? That man thinks he walks as tall as Goliath, doesn't he? Wonder if he remembers how hard that guy fell?

Yeah. But it gets even worse! :) I just read some headline blurb today that the most popular 2019 calendar in Japan is one with a bunch of pictures of a shirtless Putin. More popular than their own celeb's calendars.

Well, like I said to CoreIssue about his list...those signs aren't really new, are they? Honestly...well...apart from the bizare vegetarianism one (where did that come from?)

Not sure? I always heard it was for the Catholic meatless Fridays, but that was about temporarily abstaining from meats. Not actual vegetarianism. Personally I ceased my 4 months or so of veganism less than 24 hours before this thread started. Did so for health reasons just like I started it for health reasons. But it sure has become a pseudo-religion hasn't it!?

I never sweated it as Daniel and company show that abstaining for a time is not all bad.

things could all happen within minutes of the great event itself.

They certainly could.

And that as each contraction becomes stronger, I may know his return is ever closer. That gives me hope and excitment.

That's just it. Only recently did we have a period where the contractions are becoming distinct and not just scattered and random. I think up until now (well, last year) that they have only been little kicks. So contractions do mean the baby is due soon? On what time scale is certainly debatable. But if we are entering into the next significant, distinguishable contraction, then we can start to get an idea of the time scale. And have some idea of what may just be around the corner for us!

Blessings.

 

[Enoch111]

It is actually doubtful the Elijah went to live in heaven with God.

You are contradicting Scripture, and that is never a good thing:

And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal...And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (2 Kings 2:1,11).

 

[Keraz]

You are contradicting Scripture, and that is never a good thing:

And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal...And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (2 Kings 2:1,11).

Maybe Elijah did go to heaven, after all he and Moses appeared to Jesus and the disciples. Matthew 17:3

So Enoch, Moses and Elijah are in heaven. You must admit they were special people, taken to heaven for a special reason. I think that Moses and Elijah will be the two witnesses. [I would like to collect the postage stamp on the letter Elijah sent!]

It is your use of this to prove a general 'rapture to heaven' of the Church, that I object to.
That fanciful idea is the one that seriously contradicts scripture.