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Most pain meds are damaging to the liver and other organs. So you take them to ease pain and end up with more pain down the road.
I'm Pentecostal so Im praying for a miraculous healing.
But I also pray that if that doesn't happen, God will give you strength, guidance, and purpose.
But I also pray that if that doesn't happen, God will give you strength, guidance, and purpose.
I hope they don't make you feel different. Or hurt your stomach.
Cristo Rei
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So then what do u say to someone who has a child born blind or retarted?
Or what about the pain the drives people to suicide, was that moderated for that outcome?
Im interested in your answers cos it's not as simple as you tried to make it out to be...
Put yourself in the shoes of a disabled person...
Why should anyone be made to suffer more than others?
quietthinker
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I suppose that means you have a Penthouse on the coast? I didn't know that folk in that situation prayed for miracles. Do they want to go down a couple of floors to keep them humble? On the other hand maybe they want to go up so the view they have is greater?
I've taken some non-narcotic pain killers that are entry level for what they're coming out with and they don't have any euphoria. So yes you don't notice the medicine, it only minimizes the pain.
I took pain killers for about 3 years and took large amounts of them. No problems here and that was 10 years ago. My sister has been on them for decades and she's doing just fine.
quietthinker
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seems to me your whole country has been set up for major pain management.....and if you don't have it they'll legislate so that you do.
quietthinker
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Remember my friend that anything we have that is "good" is God or is of God!
"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18
In the beginning all that God made was "very good".
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good..." Gen 1:31
What happened to it all? I would suggest that men twisted and redefined things according to what was allowed instead of according to God's perfect Way. God allowed men to disobey Him and to walk their own ways instead of His. They did and have continued to do so.
So the "good" in us and in our actions are of God. Anything else in us is our own as result of following the old man, the offspring of the first man Adam.
Kill the old man!
@Truman Isaiah 48.10 speaks of the furnace of affliction. I do hope that pain relief is possible for you; (this was one of the arguments about legalizing cannabis, although this was also used as a cover by some ppl who wanted to use it recereationally.)
@Mantis You are right about getting hooked. I hope you can find some relief. A lot of the cannabis arguments that have gone round and round were supposedly about pain relief.
Yeah. What about that? The pain from years of abuse and neglect that moved me to attempt suicide several times in my late teens. Forget the other times, one of them, medically speaking, there is no way I should have lived, but God saw to it that there was no effect. He left me with my pain by cancelling a 4X fatal drug OD.
Simple, but not easy.
According to Paul in Acts 17, God selected when and where we would live to provide for us the best opportunity to look for God, and I think that also includes the circumstances of our birth, defects, disabilities, like that.
I can speak of myself, and that imperfectly, since, after all, what do I really know? But I happen to think that I've been predestinated to become just like Jesus, and that's how it happens. We are all different, so it always looks different. But God does the same things with all of us, including using suffering to sanctify us.
He who has suffered has ceased from sin. Suffering has a VERY puritive effect in the child of God.
I have disabled family, including a nephew of 24 years age with a vocabulary of about 20 words. We marvel when he is able to express an abstract thought, like, "I'm happy".
My mother in law, she was one of the more difficult to see. Dementia can be a horrible disease! My wife has some fairly difficult issues also, and really, the only reason I want to stay on this planet is to care for her. Otherwise, I feel done.
My father, he gave up on life. He was in so much suffering he could have lived longer with treatment, but just allowed himself to die at 57. I really miss him, even though I hardly knew him.
Of course, volunteering in the assisted living home, with it's dementia ward, I had opportunity to see other's suffering.
I don't know, I don't want to go on and on about the misery in my life, there's plenty. Look around the forum! How many of us have serious health issues, including mental and emotional. We're a pretty banged up lot!
I don't normally talk about myself. It's not an easy answer. But the Scripture is both clear and true, and I'll answer any question you ask me to the best I can.
Maybe this . . . My sister wrote me a letter before she died from cancer a year and a half ago, one of the things she wrote to me, "I never understood how much God loves me until I was dying of cancer." I understand that, I've come to see His love in my times of hardest pain.
Much love!
amigo de christo
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Put not oneself in the shoes of others . Rather put yourself inthe WORD OF GOD .
Job suffered more than most folks here ever have . Not only physically , he lost all his sons , all his daughters .
YET he didnt kill himself . HE Said the GOOD LORD GIVES and the GOOD LORD takes away , BLESSED be the LORD .
Stop worrying about this or that , and start learning bible doctrine .
IF one truly has GOD a moutain can come agaisnt them and though they suffer like hell on earth , they CLING TO GOD .
Folks who abandon GOD during pain and suffering and trials , NEVER REALLY HAD ANY HOPE IN HIM AT ALL .
STOP letting the world teach us and start letting the word of GOD teach us . TIS THE ONLY WAY folks are gonna make it .
I dont wonder why folks do as they do , I ONLY Do all to POINT THEM TO CHRIST , TO GOD , TO THE ONLY HOPE
they will ever know or have no matter what they suffer .
amigo de christo
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Thats good and well my friend . But let us also remember this . I had tears in my eyes my dear friend . Tears in my eyes
as i seen someone putting a like on a post that i thought i never would have seen them put a like on . It still hurts my soul to even think of it .
Why on earth would anyone of us abandon the true gospel for a false hope that most preach today . a false gospel .
a false love that makes folks believe that other religoins can be saved IN THIER RELIGOIN without coming to JESUS .
That is an all out betrayal of the gospel . How on earth can being a muslim save me , or being a buddist save me .
THE ONLY HOPE one has IS JESUS . JESUS himself said , if they BELEIVE IN ME they will be saved , IF NOT they will be DAMNED .
Every other religion is false . Its the work of satan . JUST LIKE ME , i once too was of satan . WE must come out of all false religoins .
AND the grace of GOD would lead us out of darkness . I had tears in my eyes when i seen what one person put a like on
in the muslim verses christain thread . You need to tell that person , OH no , JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED
and that a musim must come to saving FAITH IN JESUS and IF HE TRULY DOES come to saving faith in JESUS
he abandones his false religoin , JUST LIKE I DID TOO .
I remember when my wife and I were new to walking with God. We went to visit one of my very old friends and his wife. I knew him long before I met my wife and he helped me a lot in school.
Naively I expected to see him and his wife come soon into the fold with God as well. Rather he went from bad to worse and the friendship was forever lost. He still wanted me to go out drinking and carousing with him we had done in the old days. He became rather such a beast that his wife finally divorced him. We had tried, but, alas, it was not to be...
As to the 'likes' given on this forum. I always give them to people with whom I agree, but I also give them at times to people whose beliefs and ways I strongly oppose. The reasons for this vary from case to case, but sometimes it is a small thing that can grow into some much bigger and better. There is more than one person on this forum with whom I can scarcely converse... What can we do then? Pray that God opens a way and they see fit to walk through it. We are trying and whatever is meant to be and we cannot following the lead of the Spirit because of history and rude rebuffs.
"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. ..." Luke 23:34
Could we do that after they had driven the nails through our hands?
Help us dear Lord!
Triumph1300
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I am reading "Pilgrim's Progress" by John Bunyan.
I am reading the Modern English version.
Well worth reading, eager believers are challenged and trained by its teaching.
Many references to Bible scriptures located after every chapter.
Bunyan lived 1628-1688.
This modern edition is published by Bridge-Logos, Orlando Florida.
I highly recommend this book.
(The major theme in John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress is the cost of salvation. As Christian's journey proves, the road to Heaven is not easy, the cost is great, and the true Christian must be willing to pay the cost no matter what.)
The Pilgrim's Progress - Wikipedia
I am reading the Modern English version.
Well worth reading, eager believers are challenged and trained by its teaching.
Many references to Bible scriptures located after every chapter.
Bunyan lived 1628-1688.
This modern edition is published by Bridge-Logos, Orlando Florida.
I highly recommend this book.
(The major theme in John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress is the cost of salvation. As Christian's journey proves, the road to Heaven is not easy, the cost is great, and the true Christian must be willing to pay the cost no matter what.)
The Pilgrim's Progress - Wikipedia
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