Creation of All People Except Adam and Eve

[Timtofly]

I suggest you pray about what this means:

Rom 5:12, Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13, (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14, Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

The propensity to sin was made available. Adam's disobedience cannot even be named a sin, because Adam did not have the propensity to sin. It was not genetic, it was behavioral. I think it is safe to say, no two humans behave the same, except for some identical twins. Sin is in the thoughts and behavior of humans, not their genetics. Yes, sin entered the world. It did not enter the Garden of Eden. Now that we sin, God demands death. We do not die, because we are the descendants of Adam genetically. We die because we have the propensity to sin. When we sin just one time, we deserve to die just one time. Well we can die just one time, because we are born Spiritually dead from conception.

Now sin is not imputed to us, because God knows that we are spiritually dead from conception. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit from conception. That is God’s plan of not having sin imputed to us.

Now enter the law. The law itself tells us we are sinners, although we probably figured that out before we could understand the law.

Most of humanity is not told by God one special task that will condemn them. If God gives one a direct command it will not be hidden from them as a guessing game. They will have a choice, but they will clearly understand God’s plan and directive.

That is why sin is not genetic. Sin is not really a thing. Sin was the result of Adam's disobedience. Sin is the result of a blanket law that humans can clearly understand. But sin is still just a result and not imputed to any man.

The act that does condemn all humanity is not accepting that Jesus is the reason that sin is not imputed. It was imputed to Jesus and eradicated with the Atonement of the cross. Sin will be imputed if one rejects this Atonement. The act that Jesus did, would no longer be valid, because an individual claims they can take care of their sin results with their own human works. They take all responsibility on themselves, so God declares that He never knew them, in Christ Jesus the Lamb. In the end when the books are opened, then and only then will their name be removed from the Lamb's book of life. God will declare their works incapable of removing their transgression. They will then be sent to the lake of fire, with the full imputation of their sin.

 

[justbyfaith]

@Timtofly

Please give scripture to substantiate all of your statements.

 

[theophilus]

not saying that you're right or wrong, but an intresting view, but please give scripture where Adam was made on DAY 6. scriptures please/

PICJAG.

Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” The Hebrew word for man is Adam.

In-Depth Look at Translation of Hebrew Word Adam

 

[theophilus]

Somewhere is this thread someone asked how the different races originated. The answer is that there is only one race, the human race.

How Many Races Did God Create?

 

[Taken]

Gen 1
God said: Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Who could God be talking to? Not himself, he has to be talking to someone that he wants input from. Who is available? Angels! The angels are not the creators but they can offer input, they surely did since we have many races and types of people.

"not himself"...?
"angel's...surely offered God Input"...?

Disagree.

Gen 2
God and God only formed (not created)

"NOT Created"...?

Disagree.

Gen 5:
[1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
[2] Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Gen 1
God told the mankind created to go and replenish the earth. Replenish means bring forth something that once was.

Gen 1: [28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth...

Adam and Eve multiplied.
They had Cain and Abel.
Abel died.
Adam and Eve "replenished" the dead child with another "CHILD"...a "completely different child".

Gen. 4:
[25] And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Gen 2 God placed Adam in a garden - what we would call a farm .

Disagree.

Although this is so clear to see, one must accept something that they were never taught in Sunday School.

I think what is missing is understanding the difference Between "Creating AND Making".


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Rocky Wiley]

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
God gives these people all the food they would need to live. They just had to pick the fruit.

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
God had not made a man to till the ground. Everyone created in Gen 1 had no need to till the ground.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
God did not create in Gen 2, he formed a man of the dust. Now look at what happened! He gave this man eternal life when he became a living soul. That is what we get today when we believe!

Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
God planted a garden for Adam to care for. Adam would not leave the place he was formed in. Those created in Gen 1 were told to go into all the earth.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Formed beast of the field, not beast of the earth. Then God formed fowl of the air.
These were farm animals not wild animals or wild birds.

Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
God had yet to give Adam a help meet. He didn't form this help meet from the ground but from Adam's bone.

This is part of the different ways that God did things in Gen 2 that was not done in Gen 1. I will try to give more answers from honest questions.

 

[Waiting on him]

That is a stretch to say that Jesus was talking to himself. He surely had angels around him. To ask for input from his angels is logical because of different races that will be created.

I have found that if it makes sense it is usually correct. Creating the different races makes sense, since God told them to go and replenish the earth.

We know that every continent has a different race from the other. Why would one want to bring up a form of evolution into play.

Your question, who did Cain marry...... The world. He killed his brother just as the Pharisees did, you can read about it in the gospels. They went in the way of Cain saith the First and the Last.

 

[Waiting on him]

ERROR, Man was CREATED on day three, or may I say MANDKIND was created on day 3, but the Woman was brought forth on day 6.

PICJAG.

The creation took place on pentecost.

 

[101G]

Both Genesis 1 and 2. God only had to do it once. I agree that chapter two put Genesis 1:27 into more specific terms. Genesis 2 does not need to be a separate out of dust incident, because Adam was not named but just another unidentified son of God called a general man.

The thing is the first 4 chapters need to be separated and stories in their own right. There is overlap. They are different stories given for a specific purpose. Not neccessarily a step by step history. It would be like writing a book about the Revolutionary War, and the Civil war in the same book and blend the stories into the same landscape without specific identifiers, then expect someone 1000 years from now to figure out that they were hundreds of years apart.

GINOLJC, to all.
first thanks for the reply, and yes, God, the Lord JESUS, only had to create only one man once, and from him, came all of us, including Eve, the woman, who came out of him, the one first natural made man. so the question now is what day was man created on. this is bared out in knowing that chapter two is a detailed account of chapter 1.
for in chapter 1 we know when the dry land appeared, and the grass, the herbs, and plants and trees appeared on DAY 3. and chapter 2 clearly states Man was Created, Formed from the earth on DAY 3. scripture, Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,"
Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground."
Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

so clearly, "before", the plants was in the earth, "before", the grass grew, the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground.

and this is backed up by God making the, "animals", on day 5 & 6 and bringing them to Adam, the man, that he had already formed, to see what he would call them. so clearly Adam was here before any animal. (which eliminates any thoughts of evolution from animals).

now the blending of two different storys, as you gave the example of, "the Revolutionary War, and the Civil war", I must disagree with you there. because the creation account is only one story, and the accounts are in orderly steps. one cannot use the creation account as one do in the Portmanteau with words. these two chapters in Genesis 1& 2 are in odered steps.

PICJAG.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

Somewhere is this thread someone asked how the different races originated. The answer is that there is only one race, the human race.

How Many Races Did God Create?

Within this creation we had, 'red and yellow, black and white - Jesus loves the little children of the world. These were first humans created in Gen 1. More than one man and one woman. Of course they are all humans.

 

[101G]

The creation took place on pentecost.

first thanks for the reply,
the start of the new Creation of the redeeming of the spirit first came on Pentecoast, and then our bodies when the Lord returns. Pentecost is the start of, and only the start of the new birth.

PICJAG.

 

[Waiting on him]

first thanks for the reply,
the start of the new Creation of the redeeming of the spirit first came on Pentecoast, and then our bodies when the Lord returns. Pentecost is the start of, and only the start of the new birth.

PICJAG.

Genesis 5:2 KJV
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
They were created on the same day.

 

[Waiting on him]

This is an account of Jesus and His church.

 

[101G]

Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” The Hebrew word for man is Adam.

In-Depth Look at Translation of Hebrew Word Adam

first thanks for the reply. the first man/Adam, was not given a "PERSONAL NAME". note the difference here,

#1. H121 אָדָם 'Adam (aw-dawm') n/p.
1. (person) Adam the name of the first man.
2. (location) a place in Israel.
[the same as H120]
KJV: Adam.
Root(s): H120

H121 אָדָם 'Adam (aw-dawm'), Adam here simply means, CREATURE/PERSON, the first creature person, in his, God's, own image in creation.

#2. H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
Root(s): H119

H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm'), Adam here simply means "another", CREATURE/PERSON, that God brought forth from the first, CREATURE/PERSON.

this is bared out in Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;"
Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."

that's "WHAT" we are, creatures made in God image.

PICJAG.

 

[Waiting on him]

1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. [46] Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. [47] The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

 

[101G]

Genesis 5:2 KJV
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
They were created on the same day.

ERROR, think, what day was the "animals" formed on?" lets check the record,
Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." (PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS).
Genesis 1:21 "And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
Genesis 1:22 "And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth."
Genesis 1:23 "And the evening and the morning were the fifth day." (Notice this is the fifth DAY, and in verse 20 the fowl was made, hold this).

Genesis 1:24 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so."
Genesis 1:25 "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

NOW LETS GO TO CHAPTER 2

Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."

Waiting on him, did you see that? notice verse 19 carefully, "and every fowl of the air" now Waiting on him go back to verse 20 of chapter 1 and tell me what day the "fowl of the air" was created on. I'll tell you day 5. now God said it was not God for the man to be alone, and OUT OF THE GROUND GOD MADE THE ANIMALS INCLUDING, "THE FOWL OF THE AIR", WHICH WAS MADE ON DAY #5, (see verse 18 above).

now see what I'm talking about? how can man be made on Day 6, when God brought the fowl of the air to him that was created on day 5, and man was here alone before he formed the animals. that was the reason in forming the animals in the first place so that the man could not be alone. read those verse carefully. man was here ... "ALONE" ... before God formed the "animals". BINGO.

now that will take some NEW MATH I never heard of before to get the 6th day before the 5th day.

see these little bits of informatation says a LOT.

let us give you a big revelation, only the SEXES, Male and Female was "created" on day 6, which was accomplish by BRING FORTH THE WOMAN ON DAY 6. the man was formed Day 3 with the woman inside of him, and she was not brought forth untill day 6, for a help mate was not found in the animals... hence the bringing forth, and the forming of the woman on day 6. BINGO. read those accounts and see who was here on planet earth first, Man or Beast.... (smile).

PICJAG.

 

[Waiting on him]

ERROR, think, what day was the "animals" formed on?" lets check the record,
Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." (PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS).
Genesis 1:21 "And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
Genesis 1:22 "And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth."
Genesis 1:23 "And the evening and the morning were the fifth day." (Notice this is the fifth DAY, and in verse 20 the fowl was made, hold this).

Genesis 1:24 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so."
Genesis 1:25 "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

NOW LETS GO TO CHAPTER 2

Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."

Waiting on him, did you see that? notice verse 19 carefully, "and every fowl of the air" now Waiting on him go back to verse 20 of chapter 1 and tell me what day the "fowl of the air" was created on. I'll tell you day 5. now God said it was not God for the man to be alone, and OUT OF THE GROUND GOD MADE THE ANIMALS INCLUDING, "THE FOWL OF THE AIR", WHICH WAS MADE ON DAY #5, (see verse 18 above).

now see what I'm talking about? how can man be made on Day 6, when God brought the fowl of the air to him that was created on day 5, and man was here alone before he formed the animals. that was the reason in forming the animals in the first place so that the man could not be alone. read those verse carefully. man was here ... "ALONE" ... before God formed the "animals". BINGO.

now that will take some NEW MATH I never heard of before to get the 6th day before the 5th day.

see these little bits of informatation says a LOT.

let us give you a big revelation, only the SEXES, Male and Female was "created" on day 6, which was accomplish by BRING FORTH THE WOMAN ON DAY 6. the man was formed Day 3 with the woman inside of him, and she was not brought forth untill day 6, for a help mate was not found in the animals... hence the bringing forth, and the forming of the woman on day 6. BINGO. read those accounts and see who was here on planet earth first, Man or Beast.... (smile).

PICJAG.

I see what you're saying, what im saying is there are two separate creations given one is flesh the other is an account of the spirit given.

 

[Waiting on him]

Psalm 19:1-5 KJV
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. [2] Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. [4] Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, [5] Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
Here's another account of this creation. We see the Apostles of Christ going forward in the world proclaiming the glory of the lord.

 

[Waiting on him]

Romans 1:19-20 KJV
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. [20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

 

[101G]

I see what you're saying, what im saying is there are two separate creations given one is flesh the other is an account of the spirit given.

first thanks for the reply, but sorry, no there is only ONE CREATION ACCOUNT. understand Eve, the woman was brought forth on day 6 after the animals. what was created of the Man and the Woman.... "male" and "Femal" GENDER. that's what was created on Day 6. the scriptures don't change. understand, on day 6, God made "male" and "female, scripture,
Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;" (this is the Generation of ADAM, not the heavens and the EARTH, this is MAN/OUR History). now warch,
Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created." WHAT DAY WAS THE MALE AND THE FEMALE CREATED? CORRECT DAY 6. now the animals, especially the fowl was created Day 5, now listen, and notice the ORDER,
Genesis 2:15 "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."
Genesis 2:16 "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:" (WHO DID HE COMMAND?, THE MAN, NOT THE WOMAN and the MAN, but only the MAN, because the WOMAN is not yet here). HOW DO WE KNOW THIS? READ VERSE 18 BELOW.
Genesis 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
notice Waiting on him, Adam was alone, and he made the animals, and then brought them to him. SEE IT NOW? this mean Adam had to be here before DAY 5....... ding, ding. see it now. if not re-read this post again for clearity.

PICJAG.