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Creation vs. Evolution Apologetics

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by Codegrazer, Dec 3, 2007.

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  1. Dei-Gnostica

    Dei-Gnostica New Member

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    Would you like to show me scriptures please where we are made from other kinds, instead of our own kind? God say "after his kind" or "after their kind".Jag
    Animals are our kind. And thus, God's kind as well. All creatures are made in God's image since He is formless, and in essence, can take any form. All of the universe is made in His image. The process by which the universe is made follows specific guidelines. One of them is Evolution.
     
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    (Dei-Gnostica;26184)
    Animals are our kind. And thus, God's kind as well. All creatures are made in God's image since He is formless, and in essence, can take any form. All of the universe is made in His image. The process by which the universe is made follows specific guidelines. One of them is Evolution.
    Did you learn this in Buddha class what a bunch of *!*$!
     
  3. Dei-Gnostica

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    Did you learn this in Buddha class what a bunch of *!*$!
    This has nothing to do with paganism ["Buddha class"] as you so say.It is fact. And it is a shame that as a true Christian, you have not understood the fundamental message of Christ, nor of God's Word. The fundamental nature of reality lies in the message of Christ, in the message of the Father, of the Holy Ghost..... of the One God. The MESSAGE lies hidden beneath the text, and it is up to you sift through the symbolism to get to the message. And therein lies the fundamental reconciliation of science and faith. Therein lies the realization that God's Work and Evolution are one and the same. Until you can do this, all you're doing is lip-servicing our Lord and Saviour. You've opened your heart to Jesus, to God; now open your consciousness to God. And until you can do that, you will not know the fundamentals of Christianity.
     
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    Dei-Gnostica. You tell me why 2,000 years of Christian history haven't accepted this evolution belief. You tell me why some of the most righteous men today, who walk with God do not accept evolution. That's because God forbids them to participate in the evolution movement. What you're doing is twisting scripture.
     
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    Dei-Gnostica. You tell me why 2,000 years of Christian history haven't accepted this evolution belief. You tell me why some of the most righteous men today, who walk with God do not accept evolution. That's because God forbids them to participate in the evolution movement. What you're doing is twisting scripture.
    With respect,I've already shown how the Father's didn't all understand Genesis literally. Read the Epistle of Barnabas, for example.I have also shown that the earliest sources available on the Rabbi's show that they did not understand it literally either.I have also shown also that Evolution has only been really proved in the past 2 decades of discovery. I have also assured you that, when I was about to throw out the Bible, I realized due to sound study, that I was misunderstanding Genesis from the get go. The proper understanding... or at Very absolutely least; an understanding of Genesis which works and is reasonable, approaching the text with audience in mind, does not exclude evolution at all. Though, as I said, I haven't yet been able or allowed to make a full case for this yet.Also, just as a note, there are many holy and devout Christians who have accepted evolution. In fact, a growing number of Christians are beginning to open their eyes to it, and look on Genesis to find a fresh true meaning they never knew they were missing. The entire Catholic church for one, whatever you may think of their particular doctrines, are devout and officially recognize evolution, based on the sound and dedicated study of various scientists within the Church. I hope you aren't one of those who is quick to falsely label them anathema. But even if you are, that's not the point. The point is, evolution is being understood and taught all over. Baptist ministers, paleontologists, scientists, all are coming to see the truth of evolution. American evangelicals are the only group who seem to want to fight reason.Do I believe that holy people who walk with the Lord can be wrong about many things? yes. For example, I believe that the Church fathers are very wise. I read their works, and gain insight, understanding, and inspiration from their work, and their impact on Christianity. I love Justin Martyr. Does that mean I agree with him about the nature of baptism? no. I love Origen. does that mean I agree that he should have cut his balls off and made a point to be proud of it, and flaunt it.. well, maybe, but that's surely not for me. I love the works of Augustine, does that means I believe Satan has horns, and a male bodily figure? No, it does not. I love the works of Clement. Does that mean I think there is such a creature as a Phoenix? No, it does not. I even like Martin Luther. Does that mean I agree with his hate for all the Jews, and extreme antisemitism? No, it does not.Many holy men and women have walked with the Lord, and have just happened to be wrong, both on matters of theology, and science.I hope you come to recognize this. :cool:
     
  6. For Life

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    Animals are our kind. And thus, God's kind as well. All creatures are made in God's image since He is formless, and in essence, can take any form. All of the universe is made in His image. The process by which the universe is made follows specific guidelines. One of them is Evolution.
    I don't understand how you can state these things as facts. This is pure crap IMHO. Did you get any of this from the bible, or is it from Charles Darwin?
     
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    Dei-Gnostica and TyrelThis thread has become no longer a debate but a place where we are arguing over your Anti Biblical ideas LET ME REMIND YOU THIS IS A CHRISTIAN BIBLE STUDY SITE you have your own site where you can talk about your believes. Its not your idea of evolution I have a problem with its your lack of respect for the bible you have gone out of your way to discredit undermine the Word of God. you have quoted your sources as Egyptian, canaanites, men anything but scripture these kind of opinions are not welcome You have stated you do not need the wordyou know gods works in evolution. We have no use for this non-consturctive conversations
     
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