Daniel 9:27 the covenant to be confirmed

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Douggg

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They have accepted and served a gentile king in the past so no reason to think they wouldn't again.

Joh 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
You should go to some of the Jews (Judaism) sites, like Judaism 101, to learn what they are looking for in the messiah.
 

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What if his mother is a Gentile convert to Babylonian talmudism? :D

There's no such thing as "Judaism".
I don't know. Ask the Jews, some orthodox rabbi.

I once asked a rabbi regarding what is Judaism and he told me "the religion of the Jews".
 

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You should go to some of the Jews (Judaism) sites, like Judaism 101, to learn what they are looking for in the messiah.

Their beliefs of what is to take place have been completely wrong so, no, what they believe does not determine what will happen.
 
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I agree that the person must be a Jew to be anointed the King of Israel messiah.

The Antichrist person is also descended from the Julio-Claudian bloodline.

In Judaism, to be a Jew, a person's mother must be a Jew. The Antichrist person will be a Jew.
That is ocnjecture without proof.

The ony thing we can know fo the antichrists lineage is that He is th physical son of Satan and his mother is of some type of roman descent for he is a prince of the roman people. which Roman people is also unknown for Rome made many natives princes in the republic. But he will some sort of roman blood. Thus no Jewish lineage.
 

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They have accepted and served a gentile king in the past so no reason to think they wouldn't again.

Joh 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
Yes they have accepted their captivities and served the kings. Even faithfulJews (Daniel and the three, Nehemiah et. al.) But Israel would not anoint a gentile as a Jewish king.
 

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Those 7 years will follow the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 39.
Ezekiel 38-39 were fulfilled long ago, described in the book of Esther, when Haman the Gogite, the chief prince came against all the Jews living in unwalled cities, and God intervened and destroyed them in the valley of HamonGog.
There is no covenant between Daniel’s people and God, other than the covenant God confirmed to the many by the blood of Christ.
 
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The ony thing we can know fo the antichrists lineage is that He is th physical son of Satan and his mother is of some type of roman descent for he is a prince of the roman people. which Roman people is also unknown for Rome made many natives princes in the republic. But he will some sort of roman blood. Thus no Jewish lineage.
No, not the physical son of Satan. Empowered by Satan, yes.

He will come from the part of the world that was part of the Roman Empire, and north and west of Israel, Daniel 8:9.

He will be a Jew, who will fulfill what Jesus said in John 5:43. Jesus is the rightful King of Israel, who came in the name of the Lord.

43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
 

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Ezekiel 38-39 were fulfilled long ago, described in the book of Esther, when Haman the Gogite, the chief prince came against all the Jews living in unwalled cities, and God intervened and destroyed them in the valley of HamonGog.
There is no covenant between Daniel’s people and God, other than the covenant God confirmed to the many by the blood of Christ.
No, even the Jews (Judaism) say Gog/Magog is still future. There is no massive grave site in Israel full of bones from the destruction of Gog's army yet.

Ezekiel 39 breakdown:

In Ezekiel 39, the destruction of Gog's army verses 1-6
In Ezekiel 39, then followed by 7 years verses 9-10 (the 70th week )
In Ezekiel 39, then the Armageddon event verses 17-20
In Ezekiel 39, then Jesus's return to this earth verses 21-29, His Second Coming
 

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No, not the physical son of Satan. Empowered by Satan, yes.

He will come from the part of the world that was part of the Roman Empire, and north and west of Israel, Daniel 8:9.

He will be a Jew, who will fulfill what Jesus said in John 5:43. Jesus is the rightful King of Israel, who came in the name of the Lord.

43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
No he is the son of satan.

Genesis 3:14-15

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14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

In verse 15 both "seeds" are singular. As Jesus is the seed of the woman, the anitchirst is the seed of the serpent.

It follows the pattern of the antichrist.

A false trinity (stan, AC, false prophet)
A false supernatural birth
A false death and resurrection
A false mark
 

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The 70th week of Daniel 9 is time of the end because the vision in Daniel 9:24 to be completed is that of the little horn person's time of the end activities. That is the context.
Actually no. The only "little horn" that is ever prophesied about in Daniel, is that of Antiochus Epiphanes, which rose to power out of one of the "four heads" (the Seleucid kingdom of Greece, in the latter time of that 3rd beast).

As a fulfilled prophecy of his reign in 175BC-164BC., Jesus used that destruction of the temple/sanctuary in "typology", to point to Himself, as being what the Jews were going to do to "the Temple of His body".
KJV John 2:18-22
[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What SIGN shewest thou unto US, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy [desolate] this temple [of Himself], and in three days I will raise it up [Restore it].
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.

You can read all about the history of Antiochus Epiphanes (the desolator) and Judas Maccabeus (the Restorer), in the Jewish historical record of 1&2 Maccabees.
 
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Ezekiel 38-39 were fulfilled long ago, described in the book of Esther, when Haman the Gogite, the chief prince came against all the Jews living in unwalled cities, and God intervened and destroyed them in the valley of HamonGog.
There is no covenant between Daniel’s people and God, other than the covenant God confirmed to the many by the blood of Christ.


But that is only between those who are Christians not to anyone else.
 

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Their beliefs of what is to take place have been completely wrong so, no, what they believe does not determine what will happen.
What the Jews (Judaism) believe about the messiah has a major impact on the end times. The person who becomes the Antichrist will appear to the Jews as fulfilling the role of the messiah.
 

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Actually no. The only "little horn" that is ever prophesied about in Daniel, is that of Antiochus Epiphanes, which rose to power out of one of the "four heads" (the Seleucid kingdom of Greece, in the latter time of that 3rd beast).

As a fulfilled prophecy of his reign in 175BC-164BC., Jesus used that destruction of the temple/sanctuary in "typology", to point to Himself, as being what the Jews were going to do to "the Temple of His body".
KJV John 2:18-22
[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What SIGN shewest thou unto US, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy [desolate] this temple [of Himself], and in three days I will raise it up [Restore it].
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.

You can read all about the history of Antiochus Epiphanes (the desolator) and Judas Maccabeus (the Restorer), in the Jewish historical record of 1&2 Maccabees.
Antiochus is not the little horn person. The little horn person is time of the end. And will be broken by Jesus.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
 

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What the Jews (Judaism) believe about the messiah has a major impact on the end times.

Like I said, they have been wrong before and they will be wrong again because only Jesus is the Messiah. There is nothing about the AC being anointed or crowned as king of Israel specifically. He will rule the entire world, no matter what people's beliefs are now about it.
 

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Antiochus is not the little horn person. The little horn person is time of the end. And will be broken by Jesus.

We have Preterists here believing that Antiochus is the "little horn person" And we have Premillennialists here believe that Antichrist is the "little horn person"

A good example of Matthew 15:14 takes place here thinking a little horn must be a "person" or a "man" when God has defined the horns in His Word as power or strength of whatever is in view. :watching and waiting:
 

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We have Preterists here believing that Antiochus is the "little horn person" And we have Premillennialists here believe that Antichrist is the "little horn person"

A good example of Matthew 15:14 takes place here thinking a little horn must be a "person" or a "man" when God has defined the horns in His Word as power or strength of whatever is in view. :watching and waiting:

Daniel's little horn is definitely a man:

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.


Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.


All the horns are men, kings, including the little horn.
 

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Like I said, they have been wrong before and they will be wrong again because only Jesus is the Messiah. T
It is not that the Jews (Judaism) are right, but what they expect of the messiah will appear to fit the Antichrist person.

There is nothing about the AC being anointed or crowned as king of Israel specifically
John 5:43. The Jews rejected Jesus as their King of Israel who came in the name of the Lord. But another coming in his own name, they will accept.

John 12:
12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,

15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

He will rule the entire world, no matter what people's beliefs are now about it.

In the last stage of his time is when those 42 months takes place. He will no longer be the Antichrist, but will have become the beast-king.
 
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Daniel's little horn is definitely a man:
The five stages of the person on the way to his demise.

1. little horn person
2. the prince who shall come
3. the Antichrist
4. the revealed man of sin
5. the beast-king
 

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But that is only between those who are Christians not to anyone else.
the covenant God confirmed to the many by the blood of Christ, included Daniel’s people.

Luke 1-2 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved
To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant
 

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the covenant God confirmed to the many by the blood of Christ, included Daniel’s people.

Luke 1-2 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved
To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant
Yes, but the covenant in Christ does not have a 7 year stipulation to it. The Mt. Sinai covenant does. Deuteronomy 31:9-13.