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Featured Day of Christ's Coming: Both Resurrection Types Happen

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Davy, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    Let me say this about what your teaching with a premature gathering to Jerusalem, in relation to the Pre-trib Rapture theory.

    The Pre-tribulationalists wrongly believe Jesus is coming to gather them PRIOR to the "great tribulation". But in reality, our Lord Jesus warned us that the Antichrist is coming to Jerusalem first to play GOD, working great signs and wonders that would almost deceive even Christ's very elect.

    That future Antichrist event is going to FOOL the Pre-tribulationalists. They will believe that first supernatural one claiming to be The Messiah will be Jesus. Satan's crept in unawares preachers will lead them to him deceivingly, and their congregations won't realize it until our Lord Jesus does show up to destroy that Antichrist (false Messiah).

    So when you preach Salvation in Jerusalem PRIOR to Christ's 2nd coming, then you are actually preaching SPIRITUAL DEATH BELIEF to the coming Antichrist who will be playing Messiah there, before Jesus does return.
     
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    Keraz Well-Known Member

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    Jesus does NOT Return in His vengeance and fiery wrath. He will come in glory and everyone will see Him. Revelation 1:7
    The Sixth Seal Day, when the Lord will punish His enemies, is at least 10 years before the Return.
    I point out what the prophets actually wrote. That they don't conform to your beliefs is not my problem.

    Luke 21:20-22 was fulfilled in 70 AD.
    Luke 21:25-26 is about the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.
    Luke 21:27-28 is the Return, after these things come to pass.
     
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    What you haven't understood, is how we Christians will occupy all of the holy land, soon after the Sixth Seal event has cleared all that area. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 21:1-8, Jeremiah 12:14,+
    When the AC conquers us, Zechariah 14:1-2, the faithful ones will be taken to a place of safety. Revelation 12:14
    We will surely know who the Satanic Anti-Christ is by then!
     
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    Davy Well-Known Member

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    I've already responded to all that, and I still strongly disagree with you, and that no such idea is written. The latter part of the 6th Seal parallels the events of the wicked seeing Christ's coming and the day of His wrath per the 7th trumpet and 7th vial. That is the same day as the "day of the Lord" when God's consuming fire will burn man's works off this earth, like Apostle Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10.
     
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    You have missed or misread much of the Bible. You have also missed how God will have His faithful believers, all Christian people in His holy Land.

    Isaiah 63:1-6 The Lord comes from the godless nations, in His power and majesty, He tramples them in His fury, their blood spills out and splashes His garments. Habakkuk 3:12

    At the Return He comes in blood splashed garments.
    2 Thessalonians 1:6-10...the Day the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in flaming fire….He will reveal His glory among all believers. Revelation 14:1

    What we can understand from the above Bible passages, is that the Day of the Lord, when the Son of Man takes action, is not Jesus’ Return as the Word of God, for the Millennium reign. At the Return: ‘all will see Him’, not as in this Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, where He is not seen: Psalms 18:11, Luke 3:17, but ‘His glory will be revealed to all believers’. 2 Thessalonians 1:10
    God promised to ‘never again flood the earth’, but He has ‘stored up a fire that will envelope the earth in flames’, a worldwide judgement/punishment, vividly described by all the prophets.
    This terrible fire and devastation will come upon the world unexpectedly, ‘While they are saying: All is peaceful, all secure, then destruction is upon them’. 1 Thess. 5:3 Huge numbers will be killed by the fire, earthquakes and the resulting famines afterward. Jeremiah 9:22, Isaiah 34:1-8, Ezekiel 30:2-5
    The Lord is not seen on that Day, but His people are saved and protected, [not raptured] Isaiah 30:26b, Isaiah 43:2, Zechariah 9:5-16
    Then, as in Ezekiel 20:33-38...by My outpoured wrath, [The Day of wrath] I shall bring you out of the nations and gather you back to Israel. The Lord is: ‘Waiting to show you His favour’, and to bless His true believing people as they fulfill the promises to the Patriarchs and their destiny: ‘to be a light to the nations’. Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:4-16
     
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