Such people you put up are idols and one should never idolise anyone as such is a Grave Sin to idolise anyone.This people you put forward are all under great delusions and a bad influence on people all over the world and they reject God, so they sure are going to Hell if they promote their Homosexual filth, just as anyone will reject God does.I do not know the 45yo boy but I know the other two's point of views on God.A homosexual is never a real Man as such he is only a boy regardless and all true men know this for a fact and a woman knows it's a fact that such is so with a girl is not truly a woman.Hey I can like such people, don't get me wrong, but I will not accept them as Gods people. because it's a grave Sin they commit Sodomy and it should be seen for what it truly is and not peddled as a way of life at all because it's a culture of death, their soul is corrupted.Adam and Eve it was, not Adam and steve you know. no one could be so stupid to fall for the homosexual BS line as it's been condemned for over 4000 years until now that the power of the great Satan is tempting and corrupting the world with such lies. One was a Sin punishable by death in the OT, so that is the gravity of the charge, because it's an offence on God and his creation and Israel 'the servants of God' does not abide is such at all ever.Homosexual practice is an insult to God and has no place in the Kingdom of God, they can not enter.
You really don't get the Bible do you? & seem to have some hostility towards it.
Why do you go on Christian forums pretending to be Christian?
I understand your aversion to sodomy. And it's valid in many ways. Sodom was a place ....well, lets use an illustration you are familiar with. Sodom was like a Roman orgy. The place had all the characteristics of a Roman Orgy like you've seen in the movies.
So.
Such people are referred to as "Sodomites."
So
People who conduct their lives like a Roman Orgy are given the term "Sodomites."
So
People who have Orgies and sex outside of marriage, and sleep with multiple partners are "Sodomites." All correct.
These are the individuals that scripture is really, actually referring to. "Sodomites" having sexual relations with multiple partners and orgies.
You can check the Greek Hebrew and Latin. "Sodomites" is the base word and idea.
Now.
Society has recognised that most gays do not want to live like that. They do not want to sleep around, not want to have orgies, not want to have sex outside of commitment, not want to give in to lust that ruins their lives. So
WE invented a new word that describes these people that does not have the same connotations. This word does not include any reference to Sodom because theses people wouldn't want to live like that either.
The word we invented is "Homosexual" and it only refers to the fact that these people find close relationships with their own sex to be more fulfilling than with the opposite sex. And being a man, I fully understand 100% of the lesbian situation. I have met very few men who are not royal jerks. The vast majority of men are self-centered jerks who do not treat women with love and sensitivity as they would like. Myself included.
I have been close with only a couple men who are not family members. But I have no sexual attraction to men.
So I understand
completely why some women would not want to put up with men and find their company to be
too much to bear.
I don't blame them. A good number of Men are jerks who can't see past their penis in a relationship.
So I get the lesbian thing. I
personally get it.
Men are not good partners in intimacy.
So I'd never blame a woman for not finding intimacy satisfying with a man. And "sex" is not all that fluid for people. I had a crush on a redhead when I was a kid, and she had a strong interest in me. It never went far, but we REALLY enjoyed the interest we had in each other....and that craving interest in redheads has never left me. Lucky for me, my wife has chosen to keep that color tone going. Likely it has saved our marriage a couple times.
So i CAN UNDERSTAND THE fascination with a certain type of person that get imbedded in a person and it's very hard to ever shake it.
But
back to scripture. All the "Homosexual" references in scripture are
directly to Sodom.
At
no point in scripture are they referring purely to a person's sexual orientation. They are referring to sexual Orgies, or sex outside of marriage, or sex with both genders at the same time, or one after another, or multiple partners, or leaving your spouse for another person.
Re-read those passages. The passages often
spell out exactly which of those bad sex actions it is referring to.
And we all agree that sexual orgies with multiple sex partners and multiple genders are bad
mentally and physically.
But
Most gays do not want to live like that either. They just want
one person to be intimate with and settle down and live life.
Why did I stop persecuting the gay lifestyle? Because after 20 years in gay neighborhood I learned...NOT to tolerate orgies....but I learned from personal experience that these are normal, non-orgie people, who don't even have big parties and sleep overs. They usually live lonely secluded lives. And if couples...they have friends over who sit in lawn chairs and chat around the firepit and laugh and live
normal boring lives.
Maybe not. Maybe their lives are
not as boring as they look. But these homosexuals are
not Sodomites. They don't sleep around, they are not given to lust...(I don't even see hugs or hand holding) they don't drink excessively or do anything on the Sodom list. If they have sex...I'm not seeing it.
So, it's wrong to say they are not getting into heaven.
Most gays are not Sodomites and scripture is only referring to Sodomites. It was actually liberals that did a disservice to gays. They translated Sodomite into "homosexual" Because "sensitive" people did not like the term "Sodomites."
That was a mistake to be so "modern" and up-to-date because most Homosexuals are not into the Sodomite lifestyle,
at all.