The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD: if it wasn't the destruction of Babylon as described in Revelation, what was it then? If Jerusalem wasn't Babylon (even though the NT gives plenty of hints that she was) who was Babylon then?
Did Jesus return around 70 AD?
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It was Rome punishing a rebellion. Even Christ said to obey the rule of Rome but some didn't listen and it happened more than once but many only know the one in 70AD. Jerusalem is also not Babylon.
Was? It was a city. In Rev it is a symbolic woman.
I think you have shown your true colors. From now on when you speak of preterist don't call them "they" call them "we"
Because, like them, you claim a second coming of Christ and a resurrection but cannot present any proof.
Jerusalem is never called "Babylon" in the scriptures. It is spiritually called "Sodom and Egypt". Also, Jerusalem has never reigned over the cities of the earth, at least, not yet.
Jerusalem was the city that killed Jesus, the prophets and the Christians. Jerusalem was the most powerful city in the world. The temple was in fact the central financial institution of the world. What do you think was the reason every world empire wanted Jerusalem within their territory? Jerusalem was Babylon, the great woman. If Jerusalem wasnt Babylon then tell me who was.
Rome murdered more Christians than Jerusalem
This is untrue. Jerusalem has never been the most powerful city in the world. It has never been the central financial institution of the world. A simple google search disproves that notion.
What city rules over the nations of the earth? Hint...it's not Jerusalem.
Rv 17:18
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Revelation 11:8
And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Luke 13:33
Nevertheless I must journey on today and tomorrow and the next day, for it is not possible that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem.
See? Sodom and Egypt...not babylon
He was speaking figuratively in reference to his own crucifixion. He wasn't saying that every prophet has to die in Jerusalem. This can be proven from scripture
The prophet of Judah sent to Bethel
1 Ki 13:26 And when the prophet that brought him back from the way heard thereof, he said, It is the man of God, who was disobedient unto the word of the Lord: therefore the Lord hath delivered him unto the lion, which hath torn him, and slain him, according to the word of the Lord, which he spake unto him.
Revelation 18:24
And in Babylon was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.
Matthew 23:34-37
On account of this, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will flog in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!
Israel and Jerusalem judged but not totally destroyed as Babylon is destined to be (Rev 18)
1)Israel will go through a series of successful judgements that will eradicate all non believing jews and restore faith in the Messiah to the elect jews.( Joel 2:32)
2)Half of Jerusalem will be destroyed.(Zech 14:2)
3)Two thirds of Israel will be destroyed by judgement.(Zech 13:8)
4)The remaining one third elect will cry "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" and repent to have faith in Jesus Christ(Matt 23:39)
5)And so all Israel shall be saved (Rom11:26)
6) Jew and Gentile will be united into an everlasting Messianic Kingdom(Eph 2:15-22 Dan 2:44)
Revelation 18:21-23
So will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down with violence, and will not be found any longer. And the sound of harpists and musicians and flute-players and trumpeters will not be heard in you any longer; and no craftsman of any craft will be found in you any longer; and the sound of a mill will not be heard in you any longer; and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer.
Jeremiah 7:34
Then I will make to cease from the cities of Judah and from the streets of Jerusalem the voice of joy and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, for the land will become a waste place.
Two different prophetic contexts with two different outcomes. Rev 18 deals with Babylon which shall never recover. Jer 7 deals with the then coming judgement on Judah by Nebuchadnezzar...and after 70 years Jerusalem was rebuilt. You are cherrypicking and merging two different prophetic events into one.
Also, Jerusalem was rebuilt after 70ad...this will not happen to Babylon after it is destroyed.
Jerusalem was rebuilt after 70 ad and stand to this day. How could it be Babylon in Rev 18?
Revelation 18:4-7
Come out of Babylon, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Pay her back even as she paid, and give her back double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning.
Luke 21:20-22
But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is at hand. Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the countryside must not enter the city; because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.
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